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    #166
    Hi all.

    I want to start the paint work this weekend. But seems I have a problem....taking a look at the instructions there is a reference for the lower side of the Stuka, is the Hellblau colour. As you can see on the photo I have the Hellblau one, but the reference number is different O_o (Instructions RLM 65). Is mine correct?

    The other one is the dark green. If I compare with the list that I take on internet, the 91 Humbrol is the 896 of Vallejo. Seems this one is correct....

    Suggestions?

    The other thing I want comment is: Went I started to post the thread, I had the idea that this one must be detailed and, if I can, useful for all members. I love the Barry’s idea and his thread....so I will “copy” it a little :P Anyway all you know how dangerous is my English....so I will do it with many informative and step by step photos, think is much better

    Just hope you are interested on the idea

    Polux

    [ATTACH]86275.IPB[/ATTACH]


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    • Alan 45
      • Nov 2012
      • 9833

      #167
      It's the same colour mate rml 65 is the humbrol number , in revell colour it's number 49

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      • stona
        • Jul 2008
        • 9889

        #168
        Polux do the instructions still give only one upper surface colour? They used to when I first made this kit but this is incorrect. There should be two colours, both greens, in a splinter pattern.



        The two colours were known by the Reich Air Ministry (RLM) number codes as RLM 70 and RLM 71. Someone will know the Vallejo equivalents. Because they were both greens and because the contrast between them was very low the difference does not show up well on black and white photographs which is why when the kit was first released the colour call was for only one upper surface colour. I would have expected Airfix to have updated this by now.

        Here are the same two colours on an early Bf 109. This is a still taken from an early colour film.



        Even in sunlight (see the shadows) the contrast is low. On the upper surface of the wings it is very hard to see.

        IIRC the Hasegawa instructions for their 1/32 Ju 87 have a good diagram of the scheme.

        Cheers

        Steve

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        • Guest

          #169
          Don't worry Steve!! On the instructions there are the both colours!

          But I don't have the "lighter" one....ops: need to find it quickly

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          • stona
            • Jul 2008
            • 9889

            #170
            The lighter one is RLM 71.

            I'm sure Vallejo do a version of this. At 1/24 you might get away with spraying the colours as they come, but in smaller scales I usually lighten the 71 to give a little more contrast as in my 1/72 Bf 110.



            Cheers

            Steve

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            • Guest

              #171
              Mmmm....is perfect colour reference Steve Thank you very much.

              Looks like a green with a "touch" of brown....not?

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              • Guest

                #172
                Hi friends!

                Today I have started finally the paintwork on the Stuka. As I commented, I will post a complete thread step by step. You know I’m not a plane builder, so, just give me some “liberties” if all you do it different, or I do it absolutely the wrong way in your opinion.... O_o I have thinking these days to try new things that I want to discover for my own, if they are erroneous or can turn a utility tips for all us. Don’t thing I’m trying to say that I don’t want to listen advices or comments from all you, please

                errrr.... think I'm confusing all you now

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                • Guest

                  #173
                  Ok. The first step is masking our little plane...

                  I use stickers and these two size type mask.

                  [ATTACH]86326.IPB[/ATTACH]


                  Just look I only will prime the lower side first. I thing this model is too big for prime all it at the same time.

                  The stickers are ideal to mask the engine.

                  [ATTACH]86327.IPB[/ATTACH]




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                  • Guest

                    #174
                    Advices and mistakes.

                    Remember when I built my last Stuka (I was seventeen ), but a good thing was doesn’t glue this part.

                    These parts are painted like the upper camouflage.

                    Anyway I glued them....Why? The reason is easy, on a small kit looks fine, but here you can have the same problem as me, the pieces need some plastic putty....

                    My advice is try how it fits and then decides if you can glue it later or now.

                    Remember are a big parts, so there is no problem to mask them later as well.

                    [ATTACH]86328.IPB[/ATTACH]


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                    • Guest

                      #175
                      I usually do an extreme weathering on all my models, and this one doesn’t will be an exception...

                      Is just an opinion, but I think the grey primer is not "strong" enough....for me the best one is the panzer grey.

                      I’m searching for a resistant coat base and the panzer grey is so much dark, so I mix the grey primer and the panzer one, and add some drops of satin varnish as well. Now I have a resistant first coat, with a perfect colour to me.

                      [ATTACH]86330.IPB[/ATTACH]


                      When you mix colours needs some tool to calculate the portions, the best one for me is this

                      [ATTACH]86331.IPB[/ATTACH]


                      Is clean and easy. And this way you can remember always your mix.

                      If you, someday, will build this model...I explain you, I use (on the lower side) about 3,5 – 4 ml of paint

                      This is the final result so far

                      [ATTACH]86332.IPB[/ATTACH]


                      You can do some pre shade for a better look. Mine will lose surely , because I will add a new aluminium coat and the Hellblau colour as well. I’m thinking to create a chipping effect, that’s the reason for the aluminium coat.

                      I have decided to do the pre shade over the final Hellblau colour. Let’s see the result.





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                      • Guest

                        #176
                        Advices and mistakes

                        Always you work on a large superficies with your airbrush I recommend to take out this little piece.

                        You will work much better and will have fewer problems with the needle.

                        [ATTACH]86333.IPB[/ATTACH]


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                        • Alan 45
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 9833

                          #177
                          Can you get that satin varnish to use with a brush mate?

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                          • flyjoe180
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 12463
                            • Joe
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                            #178
                            Superb work Polux

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                            • Guest

                              #179
                              Originally posted by \
                              Can you get that satin varnish to use with a brush mate?
                              What it means Alan? Sorry I don't understand your question ops:

                              You want to use it with a brush? Or add the varnish after the primer coat..?

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                              • Alan 45
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 9833

                                #180
                                Originally posted by \
                                What it means Alan? Sorry I don't understand your question ops:You want to use it with a brush? Or add the varnish after the primer coat..?
                                Sorry mate I should realise I have to be more clear , I wanted to know if you can use it with a brush mate

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