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  • stona
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    • Jul 2008
    • 9889

    #31
    Agonisingly slow progress I'm afraid!


    I'm just making this post to contradict what I have read in a couple of online build/reviews. It has been said that to build the cockpit tub as per the instructions will cause problems when the fuselage halves are joined. One reviewer even resorted to attaching the sides to the fuselage halves and then adding the cockpit bottom, which he had filed and sanded, when the halves were joined. I did a lot of dry fitting and decided the instruction method was both easier and would work. Guess what? It does!


    Here's the fuselage taped together and you can see that the fit is very good indeed.






    We all know that if you get something just a little bit out as you build a sub-assembly then it can have a knock on effect, causing all sorts of problems later. I've done it more than once! I believe that if you build the tub right it will fit very nicely indeed, no need for any alternative method


    Cheers


    Steve
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    • papa 695
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      • May 2011
      • 22770

      #32
      It just goes to show what you can do if you think things over before you just stick them together. Great work so far Steve

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      • PhilJ
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2015
        • 1145

        #33
        Originally posted by \
        It just goes to show what you can do if you think things over before you just stick them together. Great work so far Steve
        Totally agree, it helps when you get a heads up from someone else that's built it but like anything it's all in the prep work.


        Looking good Steve

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        • stona
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2008
          • 9889

          #34
          Originally posted by \
          It just goes to show what you can do if you think things over before you just stick them together. Great work so far Steve
          Absolutely. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the most important tool in your tool box is patience. Rush and something 'unfortunate' is just about guaranteed to happen.


          Having said that my almost undetectable progress has been largely due to other commitments. I'm hoping to get a few hours in during the run up to Xmas and all the seasonal madness. Small children and partially built models don't mix, so everything will be packed away over Xmas itself


          I've also seen a promisingly large box under the tree so I might need to get a move on with the Bf 110


          Cheers


          Steve

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          • Guest

            #35
            Cockpit is looking good.

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            • Guest

              #36
              Great start, the office is looking very good

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              • Guest

                #37
                Nice start office is looking good.


                Scott

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                • Guest

                  #38
                  Done this one before on two occasions. Be careful of the chin and the nose fit. They fit awfully and only copious amounts of filler can fix it. Good luck


                  Nice Job so far


                  John

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                  • flyjoe180
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                    • Jan 2012
                    • 12399
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by \
                    Having said that my almost undetectable progress has been largely due to other commitments.
                    I feel your pain Steve. Looks good though, and a reminder that even reviewers can get it wrong.

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                    • stona
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 9889

                      #40
                      Originally posted by \
                      Done this one before on two occasions. Be careful of the chin and the nose fit. They fit awfully and only copious amounts of filler can fix it. Good luck
                      Nice Job so far


                      John
                      Thanks for the heads up John. The nose seems to fit okay, it's the standard 'E' nose (like a C/D but with the little air intake for the cockpit ventilation/heating system). I haven't fitted the machine guns, I will just fit the barrels at the end with other dangly bits.


                      If by chin you mean the big bit that covers the spars for the wings and cannon bay, I haven't tried that yet, might be something to look forward to!


                      Taped in place:






                      Originally posted by \
                      I feel your pain Steve. Looks good though, and a reminder that even reviewers can get it wrong.
                      One of them said the cannon barrels, which run under the floor of the cockpit got in the way of other parts and had to be cut off (they won't be visible anyway) but I can't see how you could fit them in such a way that they'd do that, unless you fitted the entire weapon pack incorrectly. Maybe he had a different, test, version of the kit.


                      You can see the barrels here:






                      Cheers


                      Steve
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                      • stona
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 9889

                        #41
                        I'm genuinely confused now! I've more or less finished the fuselage and am wondering if we are all talking about the same kit. Here's the underside:






                        I've done nothing but clean up and assemble the parts, no filling or even sanding. The fit so far has been as good as anything I've ever built, including the Tamiya 'uber kits'.


                        The only thing wrong so far is the appalling instructions, they really are terrible, but those I can work around. I never build a kit rigorously to the instructions anyway, but it would help if they actually showed where and how all the parts fitted


                        Cheers


                        Steve
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                        • papa 695
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                          • May 2011
                          • 22770

                          #42
                          That could just be the problem with the others then Steve trying to follow the instructions to the letter.


                          This is looking very good so far looking forward to the next instalment

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                          • PhilJ
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                            • May 2015
                            • 1145

                            #43
                            I have just finished my dragon me262 (to be posted soon), the instructions were also terrible considering there was over 200 pieces. I read reviews on that build and people had real problems, don't get me wrong there was some major fit issues and some extra work needed doing but it's craft isn't it, I found myself referring to the instructions for colour guidance and quick reference only in the end. I reckon it'd bore me if it went together too easy!


                            To caveat that I'm looking to do a nice easy hasegawa build next

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                            • stona
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9889

                              #44
                              The Dragon Me 262 is the old Trimaster kit, first released 26 years ago, in 1989. Revell and Italeri have also released versions of this kit. It does have some serious fit issues.


                              The Cyberhobby kit I'm building is much more recent, I think 2008 was the original release of the first version, and as far as I can tell it's a superb molding and fit.


                              Cheers


                              Steve

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                              • stona
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 9889

                                #45
                                oops

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