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  • Tim Marlow
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    • Apr 2018
    • 18903
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #31
    Looking good Barry. Solving problems is part of the fun

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    • BarryW
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      • Jul 2011
      • 6011

      #32
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Looking good Barry. Solving problems is part of the fun
      True...

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      • adt70hk
        SMF Supporters
        • Sep 2019
        • 10409

        #33
        Looking good Barry and glad you solved your problem.

        ATB

        Andrew

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        • BarryW
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2011
          • 6011

          #34
          Underside done, black and white plus aluminium stabs. Plus Dark Earth topsides

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          RAF Dark Green next....

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          • BarryW
            SMF Supporters
            • Jul 2011
            • 6011

            #35
            Camo done. I will spray two coats of Alclad Acquaint Gloss before decals. This to protect the paint from the lacquer varnishes I will use later.

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            Detail painting also done, not that there was a lot of it and touch ups were minimal.

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18903
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #36
              Looking good Barry, nice paint finish.
              I seem to remember the upper and lower wing colours on biplanes were different to each other though? Dark earth/dark green and light earth/light green.....Is it not the case with this one? I might be completely wrong, so don’t take that as gospel...

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              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18903
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #37
                Hi Barry, more to the above.....See here under shadow compensation...

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                • BarryW
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6011

                  #38
                  Hi
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Looking good Barry, nice paint finish.
                  I seem to remember the upper and lower wing colours on biplanes were different to each other though? Dark earth/dark green and light earth/light green.....Is it not the case with this one? I might be completely wrong, so don’t take that as gospel...
                  hi Tim

                  I too wondered about that and I have the appropriate colours for that. The instructions though say Dark Earth/Green for this aircraft bottom wing so I went with that. I have the lighter colours for the Mk 2 as well but have not yet checked to see if they are needed.

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18903
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #39
                    No probs Barry. I just thought I’d mention it before you put the top wing on and made correction almost impossible

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                    • BarryW
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                      • Jul 2011
                      • 6011

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      No probs Barry. I just thought I’d mention it before you put the top wing on and made correction almost impossible
                      Thanks Tim.
                      I did just check the Sea Glad and that one does have the 'shadow' scheme. I am rather pleased about that as I want that one to have as many differences as possible to the Mk 1.

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                      • stona
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                        • Jul 2008
                        • 9889

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                        No probs Barry. I just thought I’d mention it before you put the top wing on and made correction almost impossible
                        I'm pretty sure the scheme to which you referred was introduced sometime in the autumn of 1940, after the Sky underside. I can't be more precise because I'm b*ggered if I can find the reference to it that I know I've read in one of the books that I'm sitting by as I type :smiling3:

                        I did find an AMO dated 6/3/41 which specifically states that the top surfaces of the lower mainplanes of bi-planes should be regarded in the same way as the visible upper surfaces (as should the interplane struts and the top of the floats on floatplanes). That would be the formal end of the different colours on upper and lower wing top surfaces.

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                        • BarryW
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6011

                          #42
                          I have now done two coats of Alclad Acqua Gloss and it is being left to cure, set up ready to apply decals tonight.
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                          once decals are settled and there are not many I will do another gloss coat this time MRP gloss to seal the decals Ready for washes.

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18903
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #43
                            I think you have got that upside down Steve. It looks like the shadow scheme was an early/pre war thing that was brought in with the temperate land scheme and was then discontinued in December 1940. The scheme on this aircraft may well date from after that. The link I posted above is actually a very good read!

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                            • stona
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9889

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                              I think you have got that upside down Steve. It looks like the shadow scheme was an early/pre war thing that was brought in with the temperate land scheme and was then discontinued in December 1940. The scheme on this aircraft may well date from after that. The link I posted above is actually a very good read!
                              Barry's aircraft must date to sometime in this period, from late'38/early'39 to June 1940.

                              The black white underside was discontinued in June 1940 and replaced with the new colour 'Sky' (though it took a while to happen).

                              The black white underside scheme had a long gestation period, the first large trial on a batch of 50 Hurricanes was eventually authorised in January 1938. To cut a long story short, on 23 September 1938, Fighter Command wrote to the Air Ministry seeking permission to paint the black/white underside on all except 'Field Force' fighters. Before this date the undersides would have been 'silver', meaning aluminium dope.

                              Aircraft in service were re-painted in the following months, though the requirement was not even communicated to Supermarine until 27/1/39, meaning the first Spitfires did not come off the line in this underside scheme until some time after that date.

                              I have always associated the lighter coloured lower mainplane with the Sky underside, so post June/July 1940, though I'll happily be wrong

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                              • Tim Marlow
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 18903
                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #45
                                I’ve only got access to secondary sources so I’m willing to be wrong as well :tears-of-joy:

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