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  • Mickc1440
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 4779

    #91
    Not the best result after all your hard work, upwards and onwards to the next

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    • rtfoe
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 9092

      #92
      The past bad reviews of the kit must have really stuck fast. Can't it get any worse for the poor kit. I was looking forward to see the challenge completed and dispel all bad omens cast on it to get enough courage to get one.

      Oh well Ian...you could show us a pic with sensor tabs over exposed parts. :smiling6:

      Cheers,
      Richard

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      • yak face
        Moderator
        • Jun 2009
        • 13842
        • Tony
        • Sheffield

        #93
        What a shame Ian , it was looking great , i suppose it just wasnt meant to be . Theres a lesson to be learnt in all this though, dont let your coffee go cold :smiling5:

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        • Guest

          #94
          That’s probably the first time I have heard of a model coming to an end in that way Unfortunate, but accidents happen, I suppose …

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          • boatman
            SMF Supporters
            • Nov 2018
            • 14498
            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #95
            Originally posted by rtfoe
            The past bad reviews of the kit must have really stuck fast. Can't it get any worse for the poor kit. I was looking forward to see the challenge completed and dispel all bad omens cast on it to get enough courage to get one.

            Oh well Ian...you could show us a pic with sensor tabs over exposed parts. :smiling6:

            Cheers,
            Richard
            WELL Richard dont waste your money on a k/h kit as i did an regretted it
            chris b

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            • JR
              • May 2015
              • 18273

              #96
              I''m more concerned as to the cup and of course your skin Ian

              Normally I only glue the part to my self then spend time looking for it till it dawns on me.

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              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18924
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #97
                That’s a bit of a blow Ian. I must admit id have been tempted to jump up and down on it as well…

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                • stillp
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 8096
                  • Pete
                  • Rugby

                  #98
                  That's a shame Ian.
                  Pete

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                  • Ancientmariner
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 859

                    #99
                    Sorry to hear that Ian, did make me chuckle though as I know how it feels

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                    • Ian M
                      Administrator
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 18271
                      • Ian
                      • Falster, Denmark

                      #100
                      Well to put this to bed I will just post
                      The Conclusion
                      What can I say. After the initial joy of a modern new tooled Model of maybe one of the best looking jets of its time, my joy turned to horror. All the in box reviews praised it to the clouds, with some comment on the errors in the instructions, which where 'corrected' with photocopied corrections (sort of).
                      Then the build reviews started to turn up. The kit was put way to the back of the stash.
                      Many years later, I got the urge to build it. Most of the build is well covered in the thread so I will not go into that to much but sum up on a few points.

                      First point of note the parts where swimming in release agent and had to be well cleaned in warm soapy water and scrubbed with a brush! Generally the plastic was good and the detail fairly sharp. Close examination did reveal some softness in detail here and there, mostly curvy corners not quite pulling it off.
                      Things that where just silly: the way that the top wing surface was joined. Airfix did a very easy one part top main wing part. Kitty Hawk has the wing in two parts joining at the fuselage, resulting in a joint right through all the panel and rivet detail. Why do this in such a prominent place?

                      All the open panels where made as just that. OPEN! with no option of just closing them. I am pretty sure that if all was built up as intended, the build would have been OK. However, if you are going to do a kit that has this feature, you might want to actually put the detail in the exposed bays..
                      Of the hundreds of photos of the Jaguar with very cleare photos of what went where, they missed a chance to do it right and just did the 'meh that'll do' job.
                      A sprue of panels that fitted as a closed option will save a lot of work for those not wishing to spend hours fettling to get then to fit or even more time scratching the parts.

                      No way on this Earth can the full engine be fitted and close the doors, so that also needs a work round.

                      The way that the undercarriages are made up and built are also very awkward to do. A lot more detail would not go amiss either. There is more plumbing on the legs of this bird than there is in a small home. Not One wire, tube or hose was even attempted! Poor show.

                      So It can be built, but is a lot of work. But as in my last post. (la silencio playing in the back of my head) Due to the strange way that the model is designede and the (excessive) use of CA all ended in a fatal collision with a table top and floor.
                      Could I fix it up... maybe
                      Do I want to....nope.
                      If you have this kit, build it 100% as intended and it will be OK.
                      If you want one closed and parked buy the Airfix one.

                      PS I have today got the last of the CA, and all the layers of paint off my thumb!

                      Ian M
                      Group builds

                      Bismarck

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                      • boatman
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 14498
                        • christopher
                        • NORFOLK UK

                        #101
                        HI Ian im a bit confused by what you have said an this is not critisuim but just an observation

                        :thinking: lot more detail would not go amiss either. There is more plumbing on the legs of this bird than there is in a small home. Not One wire, tube or hose was even attempted! Poor show
                        (Ian qoute ):sad:
                        chris b ps an glad you got your self all cleaned up as thats how i was a couple of days ago fingers all gluded togeather as this c/a use to burn when goin off but now it seems to me it dont maybe the have weakened it

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                        • Airborne01
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 3995
                          • Steve
                          • Essex

                          #102
                          Ouch! That was a pity - I love the aircraft and was enjoying your build. Points to note ... ? (# 1- CA has good adhesive qualities - I also know this from bitter experience!)
                          Steve

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                          • Ian M
                            Administrator
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 18271
                            • Ian
                            • Falster, Denmark

                            #103
                            I'm not sure what has confused you Chris.
                            The real aircraft has tubes, wires, hoses all over the undercarriage for electric, brakes, hydraulic lines and all that. In the kit there is not even the largest of them.
                            The ones you can see on the nosewheel leg are some that I put on myself as they are very noticeable.
                            Also in the service bays that they have made to be shown open they are as good as empty in the kit but in real life they are packed full to the point where you can hardly see the walls of the compartment for things. Even the well detailed electronics bay in the nose, although a fair effort is far to shallow, Photos of the real thing you can see that the 'gubbins' go right back, almost all the way to the other side and there are wires everywhere.
                            My point was that if they are going to detail a kit and brag about it, they could have done a lot better than they have.
                            It is almost like they have started, had a look at the real thing and thought. "hmmm maybe not".

                            Originally posted by Airborne01
                            1- CA has good adhesive qualities - I also know this from bitter experience!
                            Oh yes, mostly on things that you do not want to stick together! lol
                            Group builds

                            Bismarck

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                            • boatman
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 14498
                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Ian M
                              I'm not sure what has confused you Chris.
                              The real aircraft has tubes, wires, hoses all over the undercarriage for electric, brakes, hydraulic lines and all that. In the kit there is not even the largest of them.
                              The ones you can see on the nosewheel leg are some that I put on myself as they are very noticeable.
                              Also in the service bays that they have made to be shown open they are as good as empty in the kit but in real life they are packed full to the point where you can hardly see the walls of the compartment for things. Even the well detailed electronics bay in the nose, although a fair effort is far to shallow, Photos of the real thing you can see that the 'gubbins' go right back, almost all the way to the other side and there are wires everywhere.
                              My point was that if they are going to detail a kit and brag about it, they could have done a lot better than they have.
                              It is almost like they have started, had a look at the real thing and thought. "hmmm maybe not".


                              Oh yes, mostly on things that you do not want to stick together! lol
                              AH OK Ian yes i now understand what you are saying thanks
                              chris b

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                              • stillp
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 8096
                                • Pete
                                • Rugby

                                #105
                                I must remember to never buy a Kitty Hawk kit. Life's too short to spend time fixing problems with poorly designed kits.
                                Pete

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