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  • arb65912
    • May 2022
    • 202

    #31
    Originally posted by Jakko
    On the real plane, the inside of the canopy frame was painted interior green. The simple way to do this on a kit is to mask the outside of the canopy and then paint it with the interior colour, and then later applying the plane’s outside colour over the top of it. This will save you having to mask both the inside and the outside, but still looks convincing, especially if it’s hard to see the inside because of the small windows. With a large-scale kit of a modern aircraft, with a big bubble canopy, painting both the inside and outside separately is going to be more convincing, but with a model like Andrea’s, painting the interior colour on the outside will look good enough.
    That is some clever technique. I am sure everybody knows about it but it was new to ME, the King of Newbies! :smiling6: :smiling6: :smiling6:

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    • Mini Me
      SMF Supporters
      • Jun 2018
      • 10711

      #32
      Don't feel bad I only tried it for the first time on my "Rooskie" Choppa build that I just completed in Petes GB. You gotta start somewhere.

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      • PhilJ
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2015
        • 1145

        #33
        Looking real nice

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        • The Smythe Meister
          • Jan 2019
          • 6248

          #34
          WOW!!.... How on earth did i miss this until now?!! :flushed:
          I love these planes.... bought a 1/72 one with am decals and other bits last year.
          I`ve had a good old read up of your thread Andy,and must admit that i totally agree with the guys.... excellent work so far mate,
          I look forward to seeing your future posts:thumb2:
          Andy

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          • Andy the Sheep
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2019
            • 1864
            • Andrea
            • North Eastern Italy

            #35
            Originally posted by arb65912
            Where should I look for precut masks for 1/32 SU-27 from Trumpeter? Any idea?
            Andrzej, sorry for the late reply but sometimes I'm a too hasty reader... :flushed:
            I found this: Eduard masks. I hope you'll find it useful.
            They also make very nice detailing sets and have a magazine, issued monthly and downloadable for free, which is very nice too.

            About the way I name things: it's one of the nice things I'm learning on this forum. :smiling2:

            Andrea

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            • arb65912
              • May 2022
              • 202

              #36
              Originally posted by Andy the Sheep
              Andrzej, sorry for the late reply but sometimes I'm a too hasty reader... :flushed:
              I found this: Eduard masks. I hope you'll find it useful.
              They also make very nice detailing sets and have a magazine, issued monthly and downloadable for free, which is very nice too.

              About the way I name things: it's one of the nice things I'm learning on this forum. :smiling2:

              Andrea
              Hi Andy,
              Not a problem, thank you for finding them, I did not know where to even look, now I will know one source. :smiling:
              I will browse through their products right after I finish typing this and these masks I will use as my testing bed.
              I will also have questions.... :tongue-out3:

              I wish I could name things funny way you do, I will try when I remember. I like it a lot!

              Cheers, AJ

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              • Andy the Sheep
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2019
                • 1864
                • Andrea
                • North Eastern Italy

                #37
                An update: after a last sanding session P70 received her multicolour underwear as well as two nice props:
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                I used 3 different primers from rattle cans: white from Tamiya, red and black from Titans Hobby, which I think it's really fine.:thumb2:
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                Why 3 different colours? I thought that the upper side of the aircraft would have been paler than her belly, being more exposed to the tropical sun of the Pacific TOA and the tail even more, assuming that the nose and the central fuselage would have been sheltered or protected during the day to save the radar devices from the high temperatures :rolling:.
                Considering the experimental aim of this build, my intent is to paint it all black but with different shades from the paler, the tail, to the darker, the bottom while trying to show the wearing of the paint in that challenging weather. That's why I had the idea of a three different primers layer.:confounded:
                Please, do not spray shaving foam over my face or kindle any matches between my toes while sedated, as Matron will surely have her needles at ready as soon as she reads this.:face-with-thermometer::smiling6:
                Next step, after the green light form the shrink :tongue-out2:, painting.:sick:

                Andrea

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                • arb65912
                  • May 2022
                  • 202

                  #38
                  Hi Andy,
                  Fantastic update.
                  Very interesting idea about 3 primers!!!!
                  I know nothing about it but sounds like a great test. :thumb2:
                  Keep going and enjoy everything to the max!!!

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                  • Andy the Sheep
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1864
                    • Andrea
                    • North Eastern Italy

                    #39
                    Today it's warm (above 30 °C) but the cave is just 21°... so... painting day.
                    Everything went quite smoothly and these are the famous last words. :sad-face:
                    The tail is painted mainly in Tamiya Panzer Grey, the upper body in Tamiya Panzer grey darkned by Tamiya NATO black (2:1) while the lower parts are NATO Black with a dot of Black.
                    The problem came when I decided to block the results with a coat of Tamiya gloss...
                    Disaster: the airbrush or the paint had some problem and I ended up with a grainy shiny coat. The final effect was that of a night dress with paillettes. In the pics the defect is not so evident but, believe me, it was awful.

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                    After some thinking I decided to try a radical solution: 0000 steel wool, some elbow grease followed by some unavoidable vacuum cleaning.
                    The results are not so bad but the P70 now needs another painting session as the blacks have turned into greys and the primer came to the surface here and there, but now it is smooth again. Click image for larger version

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                    In the meantime, some good old hairy stick job on the wheels
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                    That's all, for the moment.

                    Andrea

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                    • Andy the Sheep
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 1864
                      • Andrea
                      • North Eastern Italy

                      #40
                      Originally posted by arb65912
                      Hi Andy,
                      Fantastic update.
                      Very interesting idea about 3 primers!!!!
                      I know nothing about it but sounds like a great test. :thumb2:
                      Keep going and enjoy everything to the max!!!
                      Thank you for the compliments, Andrzej,
                      The 3 primers was an experiment and the result is partially satisfactory: where I used the white (the tail) the difference is visible while there is not a significant difference between the red primed and the black primed surfaces. Another difference is that Tamiya white primer finish is less smooth than the red and the black ones; I think I will use it for land vehicles in the future and not for aircrafts.

                      Andrea

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                      • Mark1
                        • Apr 2021
                        • 4156

                        #41
                        Shame about the paint issue but it happens hope round two goes better.

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                        • arb65912
                          • May 2022
                          • 202

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Andy the Sheep
                          Thank you for the compliments, Andrzej,
                          The 3 primers was an experiment and the result is partially satisfactory: where I used the white (the tail) the difference is visible while there is not a significant difference between the red primed and the black primed surfaces. Another difference is that Tamiya white primer finish is less smooth than the red and the black ones; I think I will use it for land vehicles in the future and not for aircrafts.

                          Andrea
                          I see, the surface finish difference, that was something hard to predict with the same manufacturer.
                          But you will paint all and it will be great, I know it.

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                          • Andy the Sheep
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 1864
                            • Andrea
                            • North Eastern Italy

                            #43
                            This morning I managed to give her a new coat of paint.
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                            The camera is turning the original dark greys into a paler shade of greys; in reality the colour is blacker (no pots or kettles available as benchmark :tongue-out3.
                            It came to my mind too late I could have added a point of dark blue to the mix... next time!:rolling:
                            Tomorrow (if everything is going according to plans) I'll glue some external details and I'll spray a clear gloss coat before decalling. Finger crossed.:cold-sweat:
                            Andrea

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                            • scottie3158
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 14220
                              • Paul
                              • Holbeach

                              #44
                              Looking good

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                              • arb65912
                                • May 2022
                                • 202

                                #45
                                Keeping fingers crossed for you, Andy!

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