Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker B Trumpeter Scale 1:32

[arb65912]

When you dip the canopy it should be the whole part inside and outside.

Cheers,
Richard

That is exactly what I did. I will take picture from different angle. Not a big deal for this project for known reasons :tongue-out3: but I am curious what is the cause of it. Was it like that when I bought it or I made it?

[arb65912]

Next step, joining fuselage halves. VERY exciting.
And here goes my first wash, yes, I know, super ugly but I will do it a bit better, later on.
It is Flory's wash; I think I like it. :tongue-out3:

[Guest]

You can easily make your own washes: put a few drops of paint on a palette (like a jar lid or a glazed tile), and thin it until it flows like water. Pre-mixed washes are often much stronger than thinned paint is, plus, by thinning paint you can make a wash in any colour you like and without the need to buy another bottle of something

[arb65912]

You can easily make your own washes: put a few drops of paint on a palette (like a jar lid or a glazed tile), and thin it until it flows like water. Pre-mixed washes are often much stronger than thinned paint is, plus, by thinning paint you can make a wash in any colour you like and without the need to buy another bottle of something :smiling3:

That will be something to experiment with one day but on different model probably.
Thanks, Jakko.
Something totally new. :smiling:

[arb65912]

Fuselage halves glued together!!!!!! :smiling:

How was the experience? I would say..................hmmmm..... intense.
Trying to apply glue and holding pieces when they were trying to pull apart from each other.

Next, I will reinforce from inside adding more glue, when dry I will prepare to glue nose cone in.

So much FUN!!!!

[arb65912]

Hello, the fun continues.

Fuselage glued just fine, added more glue inside to make sure all is connected.

Sanding, sanding and more sanding, dry fitting things, it will have to be good and symmetrical.

I think I will do more final sanding of the fuselage and glue in wings, then nose cone and after that putty and more sanding and primer (Stynylrez).

QUESTION, is the order I described, OK?

Thank you for the comments!!!

[Andy the Sheep]

I'm following your progresses with great interest, Andrzej. I share your fears and doubts as I still have many of them. As an old modeller back to the hobby (at very slow speed) after 3 decades, I still have a lot to learn before properly manage many of the new techniques and products now available.
Fun, of course, is paramount, so keep enjoying your build. :thumb2:

Andrea

[Valeron]

It's looking good.

It's also looking absolutely massive. I guess that's because I've only built 1/72 scale aircraft so far.

[Guest]

is the order I described, OK?

I’m not really an aircraft modeller, let alone in this scale, but it sounds good to me. If anyone on here had built this kit as well, they probably would have spoken up with advice by now, so I think the best thing to do is what you seem to be doing: thinking it through before actually doing it

[arb65912]

Andy the Sheep Hi Andrea, yes, I do have many doubts and make many mistakes but as I said before, this is my learning/testing kit so I am "allowed" to make mistakes. :tongue-out3:
Coming back after 3 decades, yes, you were away for a while but there are no races, take your time and enjoy all to the max!!!
I can imagine that techniques and available sources changed a lot after 30 years but that is good, I like learning new stuff and I hope you too. :smiling:
Send the link to what you build, I will follow.
Thanks!

Valeron : it IS huge, I am working on a dinner table and every time I am done I need to move it away, lol,lol. Such a setup in small apartment. :smiling6:
Even with 1:32 scale there are parts of the missiles I do not know how I am going to handle, so small.
I am glad I picked that sale.

@Jakko : I believe that a lot comes to just thinking before gluing as I try to do.
Certain order has to be maintained but so far, I think I am good.
I am thinking what to glue on first, wings or nose cone???? :cold-sweat: :tongue-out3:

[Guest]

Even with 1:32 scale there are parts of the missiles I do not know how I am going to handle, so small.

Generally, it doesn’t really matter which scale you pick, the smallest parts in the kit will be roughly the same size. This is simply because there is a minimum practical size they can be moulded at, and so manufacturers will make some parts that small. The main difference in scales here is that a larger-scale kit will have more small parts than a small-scale kit. On a Su 27 in 1:72, probably the smallest parts will be things like the control stick, some antennas, that sort of stuff, but there will be maybe half a dozen of them instead of several tens like you probably have in this 1:32 scale version.

I believe that a lot comes to just thinking before gluing as I try to do.

Very much so. If you immediately glue things down, you’ll end up making mistakes you can’t correct. But by first thinking about it and dry-fitting parts (possibly with the help of some tape or something), you can work out which parts need to be fixed before which other ones, or which ones you may not be able to get paint onto later on, so you will need to paint them first.

I am thinking what to glue on first, wings or nose cone???? :cold-sweat: :tongue-out3:

I would probably go with the nose myself. The nose and wings don’t interfere with each other, but a model this big will be harder to handle and maneuver with the wings on, so it’s probably better to put the nose on first.

[arb65912]

Thank you, Jakko!

I did not know about the scale thing; I understand what you explained. Makes sense. But these missiles little parts are so tiny, I will handle them but still....

Gluing parts, actually if one follows manual, these major mistakes of gluing something in wrong order will be avoided.
But now with painting, now after I watched few videos and read, I see the major trend in building aircraft models.
Anyway, it is a learning process all the time, at least for me.

Glued the nose, not touching till tomorrow.

[arb65912]

Today, I made an experiment.
I did not like old wash as it was erased from the flat surface too much and I want some areas to be more "dirty"
I learned that it was because I used very glossy surface for Flory Wash.
What I love about Flory Wash is that you can almost entirely remove it except where there was very rough surface and then the wash will stay there.

I cleaned main wheel wells with warm water with soap gently and put a coat of the satin Vallejo Varnish.
I will try to wash again in 2 -3 days and we will see if it comes out better.

I also glued in the nose cone, not getting near it till tomorrow night. :tears-of-joy:

[Guest]

these missiles little parts are so tiny, I will handle them but still....

Start by building one completely, so you can work out the best way to hold parts, put them in place, etc. You can then do the others as on an assembly line

if one follows manual, these major mistakes of gluing something in wrong order will be avoided.

Hopefully Sometimes, though. instructions seem to have been designed by someone who never built a kit at all. Many AFV kits would have you fit all the details to the upper and lower hulls before joining those two — meaning you have to glue the two largest parts of the kit together after all the small, delicate and vulnerable bits have been added to them. Much more sensible is to start with the parts that you can’t reach anymore when the two hull pieces are together, then glue those hull halves together, and add all the other stuff last. Aircraft kits don’t suffer from this as much, though, I think: they usually have you build the cockpit etc., glue the fuselage together and then add the exterior details.

Anyway, it is a learning process all the time

I’ve been building models for about 40 years and I usually learn something new with each kit

[arb65912]

Start by building one completely, so you can work out the best way to hold parts, put them in place, etc. You can then do the others as on an assembly line :smiling3:


Hopefully :smiling3: Sometimes, though. instructions seem to have been designed by someone who never built a kit at all. Many AFV kits would have you fit all the details to the upper and lower hulls before joining those two — meaning you have to glue the two largest parts of the kit together after all the small, delicate and vulnerable bits have been added to them. Much more sensible is to start with the parts that you can’t reach anymore when the two hull pieces are together, then glue those hull halves together, and add all the other stuff last. Aircraft kits don’t suffer from this as much, though, I think: they usually have you build the cockpit etc., glue the fuselage together and then add the exterior details.


I’ve been building models for about 40 years and I usually learn something new with each kit :smiling3:

Will do one complete missile and post here. :smiling:

Even being a total newbie, I have to agree 100% about SOME instructions. Yes, by now I have a general idea of the order of gluing things, I wish I knew about painting some of them before gluing. :tears-of-joy:

Wow, 40 years of experience, my hat off to you, Jakko!!! :thumb2::tongue-out3: