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    #61
    You can use most paints over most others with no problems, whether different types (acrylic, enamel etc.) or different brands. If in doubt about anything paint-related, you can always do a quick test — in this case, paint a piece of leftover sprue with the paint you want underneath, and when it’s dried, put the second over it and see what happens.

    The main thing to keep in mind is not to mix paints of different types: don’t mix acrylic and enamel paints to make up a colour you need, for example, as it’s unlikely to go well. Different brands of the same type of paint can normally be mixed with no problems, though some may cause trouble — again, if in doubt, just try mixing one drop of each on a palette (like a glazed wall tile, the inside of an old jar lid, etc.).

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    • arb65912
      • May 2022
      • 202

      #62
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Tamiya primer then Vallejo paint….Definitely yes! Done that hundreds of times. The grey Tamiya primer is far better than the white primer though. It adheres better.
      Acrylic paint over non acrylic primer….again definitely yes.

      I have used almost everything paint wise over almost everything else primer wise over the years with no issues as to compatibility. As long as the primer is allowed to properly dry then the overlying paint does not react.
      Thank for the immediate response, Tim! :smiling:
      As so far I see all my questions posted here are answered.

      Accordingly, to your advise, Stynylrez Acrylic Primer will live happily with Vallejo acrylic paint, correct Tim Marlow ?

      I will have more questions as a time goes by.

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      • arb65912
        • May 2022
        • 202

        #63
        Originally posted by Jakko
        You can use most paints over most others with no problems, whether different types (acrylic, enamel etc.) or different brands. If in doubt about anything paint-related, you can always do a quick test — in this case, paint a piece of leftover sprue with the paint you want underneath, and when it’s dried, put the second over it and see what happens.

        The main thing to keep in mind is not to mix paints of different types: don’t mix acrylic and enamel paints to make up a colour you need, for example, as it’s unlikely to go well. Different brands of the same type of paint can normally be mixed with no problems, though some may cause trouble — again, if in doubt, just try mixing one drop of each on a palette (like a glazed wall tile, the inside of an old jar lid, etc.).
        Thank you very much for the response, Jakko.
        I know, there are few guys here I can rely on for advice.

        I use make a test before I apply on underside of the fuselage, I will sand it as it was outside, put primer and then base coat before I dare to do that on the outside (visible) part of the model. :tears-of-joy:

        About mixing paints, I thought of it before you answered and I will only mix the same type and brand, much safer.

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          #64
          A good guide is that if paints smell alike, you can probably mix them without anything unexpected happening. Don’t be afraid to experiment, though — like I said, mixing a few drops to try out will give you a yes-or-no answer quickly and simply.

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          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18934
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #65
            Originally posted by arb65912
            Thank for the immediate response, Tim! :smiling:
            As so far I see all my questions posted here are answered.

            Accordingly, to your advise, Stynylrez Acrylic Primer will live happily with Vallejo acrylic paint, correct Tim Marlow ?

            I will have more questions as a time goes by.
            Yes to that. Quite a few on here use stynylrez primer.

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            • arb65912
              • May 2022
              • 202

              #66
              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
              Yes to that. Quite a few on here use stynylrez primer.
              Quite a few, you mean many use it here , correct? I am sorry that is my Polish English. :tears-of-joy:

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              • arb65912
                • May 2022
                • 202

                #67
                Here is the broken canopy, looked everywhere but no luck, I guess I will just sand and polish it and that will be it.:smiling:

                And the ugliest cockpit painting ever done. :smiling6:

                These two facts above still make my progress worth the effort as if you looked in initial post, I am building the SU-27 for X-Plane flight simulator so cockpit does not have to be good and broken canopy still has it's shape so for my purposes it is all good.

                I have a question about canopy and corresponding parts, I can not figure out how to glue them together positions wise.
                I will take some pictures and post, maybe you can help me.
                Attached Files

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                • arb65912
                  • May 2022
                  • 202

                  #68
                  I forgot to ask, what do I do to polish the canopy, what sandpaper grit and what later. I know it will be cracks seen but I still want it shiny. :tongue-out3:

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                    #69
                    I’ve never tried it, but very fine sandpaper to start with and then polishing compound, I would say. Toothpaste will probably work too, that’s also actually a polishing compound.

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                    • rtfoe
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 9101

                      #70
                      Originally posted by arb65912
                      Here is the news, I broke the canopy.......
                      So at this point I will not worry about cockpit look which I messed up to start with and just concentrate on the outside. :smiling:
                      Learned something the VERY hard way, just life.

                      Somone might ask, how the h...l did you do it?
                      Well, I was just dry fitting it and it seemed to be too narrow, so I tried to open it up.
                      The plastic parts from the sprue are much more flexible and can be deformed if overbend carefully so I thought the same will happen with the canopy. I was wrong! :tongue-out3:
                      Apologise for coming in this late, Andzrej. Now that you mentioned it a friend of mine also built the Trumpeter Sukoi 27 32nd scale and mentioned that the canopy was too narrow as well so he posed it open.
                      How do you pronounce your name?

                      Cheers,
                      Richard

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                      • stillp
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 8098
                        • Pete
                        • Rugby

                        #71
                        Originally posted by arb65912
                        I forgot to ask, what do I do to polish the canopy, what sandpaper grit and what later. I know it will be cracks seen but I still want it shiny. :tongue-out3:
                        I'd start with 400 or 600 grit, used wet, work up to 2000 or the finest you have, then use polishing compound or metal polish.
                        Pete

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                        • arb65912
                          • May 2022
                          • 202

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Jakko
                          I’ve never tried it, but very fine sandpaper to start with and then polishing compound, I would say. Toothpaste will probably work too, that’s also actually a polishing compound.
                          Thanks, Jakko. :smiling:
                          I see other replies too. I will try toothpaste, just for curiosity and if not good enough for shininess, I will use compound.

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                          • arb65912
                            • May 2022
                            • 202

                            #73
                            Originally posted by rtfoe
                            Apologise for coming in this late, Andzrej. Now that you mentioned it a friend of mine also built the Trumpeter Sukoi 27 32nd scale and mentioned that the canopy was too narrow as well so he posed it open.
                            How do you pronounce your name?

                            Cheers,
                            Richard
                            Hello, Richard. :smiling:
                            Better late than never, right? Thank you for the reply.

                            Is there a thread here with your friend's build so I could take a peek?

                            Yes, it seems to be too narrow, so I broke it....:smiling6:

                            My name is Polish so probably the close pronunciation would be "and-jay" , second close would be Russian Andrej and in my airplane places I just go by AJ, which is much easier as very few can spell or pronounce my real first name.

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                            • arb65912
                              • May 2022
                              • 202

                              #74
                              Originally posted by stillp
                              I'd start with 400 or 600 grit, used wet, work up to 2000 or the finest you have, then use polishing compound or metal polish.
                              Pete
                              Thanks, Peter. :smiling:
                              I will try that for sure.
                              Could you post a link for that polishing compound or metal polish?
                              With so many different sources available, I do not want to pick the "bad" one.

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                              • stillp
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 8098
                                • Pete
                                • Rugby

                                #75
                                AJ, I don't know what polishing compounds are available in New Jersey, but Tamiya sell one that's often used. Also any compound used for polishing scratches out of automobile paint should work.
                                Pete

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