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  • adt70hk
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    • Sep 2019
    • 10415

    #106
    Ok chaps, so a sneak close up preview of the planned camo patterns.

    In the case of kit no. 2, which quite a bit is known about the pilot of, I have found a photo supposedly of it online from a book on JG 300 by Lorant and Goyat (?) (possibly Part 1 and possibly the French version???)

    As I noticed from the 1/32 build I'm using for reference purposes and the photo, the splinter camo on the top half of the fuselage does not have a very hard bottom edge as the destructions suggest. I therefore might have a go at seeing if I can soften it bit using mottling in RLM 76 but we'll see.

    Pictures below...

    ATB

    Andrew



    The planned camo for kit 1 - location and pilot(s) unknown:







    Kit 2 as flown by Manfred Dieterle - the destructions and allegedly the real thing:




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    • Mini Me
      SMF Supporters
      • Jun 2018
      • 10711

      #107
      Wow Andrew, I love the second version flown by Dieterle........also it is quite different in it's overall scheme if you look at it closely.
      Much preferred over the one shown in the kit. You are doing a super job on yours and i'm looking forward to the "mottling" :thumb2:

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      • adt70hk
        SMF Supporters
        • Sep 2019
        • 10415

        #108
        Originally posted by stillp
        Does Popeye know she's two-timing?
        More seriously, what's the olive oil for?

        Nice paintwork on the model!
        Pete
        Hi Pete,

        Not sure TBH on the Olive Oil cheating front!! :smiling5:

        In all seriousness, when I very first got my my own airbrush the owner of the small forum I was on at the time was very helpful on all kinds of fronts. He explained that at the end of a full strip down he would put a single drop of olive oil on a piece kitchen towel, let it soak in and then lightly drag the needle through to lubricate it. I have also found it very useful recently when it came to a sticky AB trigger, not having proper AB lubricant to hand.

        And if course thanks for the support on the paint job!!!

        ATB.

        Andrew

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        • adt70hk
          SMF Supporters
          • Sep 2019
          • 10415

          #109
          Originally posted by Mini Me
          Wow Andrew, I love the second version flown by Dieterle........also it is quite different in it's overall scheme if you look at it closely.
          Much preferred over the one shown in the kit. You are doing a super job on yours and i'm looking forward to the "mottling" :thumb2:
          Thanks Rick, it does look good.... I'll do my best but at this scale a 'representation' is the best I'll be able to do.

          ATB.

          Andrew

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          • adt70hk
            SMF Supporters
            • Sep 2019
            • 10415

            #110
            Hi all

            So the mottling and lines/stripes were next.....and to be honest they've made me come closer to chucking a kit/kit away than I ever have been before.

            In part because the RLM 74 and 75 point blank refused to play ball when it came to nice fine lines.......it was fine on my 'test' yoghurt pot but any time I went near the kit it went !$^%$£%$£!.

            The second part was because my recollection of the Dieterle plane camo job was the opposite of what it actually was....which is very little mottling down the side.....couple that with the lack of fine lines, it looks like a real dogs dinner.... :tired: :tired: :crying: :crying:

            The grey lines on the all blue kit 1 were so broad in places that I even used some RLM 76 to go down the sides and narrow them a bit to tighten it up....and guess what, the RLM 76 behaved almost perfectly....

            I've decided to persevere with it though, in part because it's not the kits' fault but also so I can look back on them one day as a step in the learning process.

            The wheel wells, inside of the under carriage flaps and undercarriage have all had a coat of RLM 02, which again went fine!

            Anyway for better or worse the next progress shot is below.

            ATB.

            Andrew

            PS I did think about stripping them back but I've decided leave them as is - I want to get them across the line as the Mossie GB has started.


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            • AlanG
              • Dec 2008
              • 6296

              #111
              I find that to get my fine lines i have to highly dilute Vallejo paint with Vallejo flow improver and spray at about 10psi(ish). But to be honest Andrew i'd still be happy with your painting.

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              • The Smythe Meister
                • Jan 2019
                • 6248

                #112
                Well,
                I, for one, am blown away by both of those Andrew
                Excellent stuff mate!
                Andy

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                • stillp
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                  • Nov 2016
                  • 8096
                  • Pete
                  • Rugby

                  #113
                  I'd be happy with that too
                  Pete

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                  • Tim Marlow
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18913
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #114
                    Me four mate. I’d be more than happy with that.

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                    • Mini Me
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 10711

                      #115
                      Let's make it unanimous! Me too! :thumb2: :thumb2:

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                      • JayCee
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Aug 2019
                        • 1133

                        #116
                        I agree with all the rest. Nothing wrong with those two.
                        John.

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                        • Jim R
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 15723
                          • Jim
                          • Shropshire

                          #117
                          We are our own worst critics. Add me to the growing list of those who think that those two are fine.
                          I reckon we have all had days when a gremlin gets into a pot of paint and then sticks it's finger in the nozzle of the airbrush - little buggers they are!! Well that's what I tell myself :rolling:
                          Jim

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                          • Airborne01
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 3989
                            • Steve
                            • Essex

                            #118
                            Sincerely - what's not to like?
                            Steve

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                            • adt70hk
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 10415

                              #119
                              Originally posted by AlanG
                              I find that to get my fine lines i have to highly dilute Vallejo paint with Vallejo flow improver and spray at about 10psi(ish). But to be honest Andrew i'd still be happy with your painting.
                              Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                              Well,
                              I, for one, am blown away by both of those Andrew :smiling3:
                              Excellent stuff mate!
                              Andy
                              Originally posted by stillp
                              I'd be happy with that too
                              Pete
                              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                              Me four mate. I’d be more than happy with that.
                              Originally posted by Mini Me
                              Let's make it unanimous! Me too! :thumb2: :thumb2:
                              Originally posted by JayCee
                              I agree with all the rest. Nothing wrong with those two.
                              John.
                              Originally posted by Jim R
                              We are our own worst critics. Add me to the growing list of those who think that those two are fine.
                              I reckon we have all had days when a gremlin gets into a pot of paint and then sticks it's finger in the nozzle of the airbrush - little buggers they are!! Well that's what I tell myself :rolling:
                              Jim
                              Originally posted by Jim R
                              We are our own worst critics. Add me to the growing list of those who think that those two are fine.
                              I reckon we have all had days when a gremlin gets into a pot of paint and then sticks it's finger in the nozzle of the airbrush - little buggers they are!! Well that's what I tell myself :rolling:
                              Jim
                              Originally posted by Airborne01
                              Sincerely - what's not to like?
                              Steve
                              Dear all

                              Thanks very much for the unequivocal support; it is appreciated. As Jim said, we are own worst critics but in my case I was so disappointed because I know I can do much better!


                              Alan - I tried my usual recipe using a different extender type medium which works very well on general spraying (and is much cheaper than Vallejo's flow aid). I'll try their own flow aid for fine lines next time and see how I get on


                              Further pics to follow shortly!

                              ATB

                              Andrew

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                              • adt70hk
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 10415

                                #120
                                Evening all!!

                                So I managed to get the 'black' undersides done. As discussed previously, I've gone with an off-black/very dark grey to account for the scale, I've gone with a mix of Vallejo's Model Air Black (71.057) and RLM66 Black Grey (71.055) at a ratio of 3:1.

                                I'll do a proper reveal when I get better light for the pictures but so far I'm very pleased with the effect.

                                Below are some pictures of it ready and masked....probably very OTT but some of the 'black' had to be sprayed at the sides immediately under the engine and I've learnt the heard way of not masking properly.......

                                FYI, the black stuff in the wheel wells is AK's Camouflage Elastic Putty. I've had it for over 18 months but never used it. I tried putting a piece of sponge in but it wouldn't stay. This worked really well, and so I'll be using it next time. It also helps to show that the 'black' undersides really aren't black

                                ACW as usual.

                                Andrew

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                                All masked up






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