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Trying to have 1/72 fun with the 1940 McClellan- Barclay wacky camouflage schemes.

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  • Allen Dewire
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    • Apr 2018
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    • Allen
    • Bamberg

    #16
    Me too!!!
    Life's to short to be a sheep...

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    • Steve-the-Duck
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      • Jul 2020
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      • Chris
      • Medway Towns

      #17
      There is no reason to suppose that the US Army wouldn't have tried some experimental camo schemes, in the same way the McClellan-Barclay STRANGENESS was tried by the USN
      And for those of you that weren't following the camo thread...
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      The brown Brewster above is probably equally likely than the blues and greys usually touted, as there's little record of what colours were actually used. Only six 'planes were ever tried in this project

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      • spanner570
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        • May 2009
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        #18
        Not another.....****!

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        • Steve-the-Duck
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          • Jul 2020
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          • Chris
          • Medway Towns

          #19
          With some camo schemes you get where they're coming from, what they're trying yo achieve

          With others it's just 'what the what?"
          Like these

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          • adt70hk
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            • Sep 2019
            • 10405

            #20
            Now that's a bonkers camp scheme! Liking how yours is looking Ron!

            ATB

            Andrew

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            • Guest

              #21
              Originally posted by Steve-the-Duck
              With some camo schemes you get where they're coming from, what they're trying yo achieve

              With others it's just 'what the what?"
              Like these
              I’d say it’s fairly clear what they were trying to achieve here: not hide the plane as such, but make the enemy be confused about where exactly it is, which direction it’s heading, and/or how fast. I suspect it won’t have worked all that well, else it would likely have been a lot more common.

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              • spanner570
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                • May 2009
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                #22
                What about me moggle?!

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                • Si Benson
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 3572

                  #23
                  Originally posted by spanner570
                  Thanks for your support Tony.

                  In answer to your question.....

                  Today, I've brushed on these colours freehand. This is the first coat, hence the pale appearance. As can be seen from the still visible pencil lines, there will be other colours and more layers of paint added.

                  I just want to get an overall 'Feel' for the layout of what is proving to be a difficult, but still fun, project / Attempt!


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                  Cheers.
                  Ron
                  Your version looks fantastic Ron :thumb2:

                  look forward to seeing more of this

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                  • Gern
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                    • May 2009
                    • 9212

                    #24
                    If I didn't know you don't use masking tape, I'd say you stuck on offcuts at random just so you got some use out of them! (Frugal is the word I'd use. Certainly not mean or stingy!).

                    Meanwhile, back at the ranch - Didn't that message appear usually half way through programmes like Lassie and Champion the Wonder Horse? Maybe that should go into Dave's list of missing things? - keep up the good work. It's looking great!

                    PS I wouldn't worry that it doesn't match the drawings. This was experimental after all and I daresay they tried different versions of it. Who's to say yours wasn't one of them?

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                    • Dave Ward
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 10549

                      #25
                      This guy must have seen the dazzle camouflage applied to ships in WWI......................
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                      The camouflage system was proposed by the artist Norman Wilkinson, and was applied to many vessels
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                      Purpose was to confuse the course, speed & type of ship - must have taken ages to apply! Haven't seen many ship models painted like this!
                      Dave

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                      • spanner570
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                        • May 2009
                        • 15386

                        #26
                        Thanks for the feedback chaps.

                        Dave (Gern), that's the beauty of just brush painting. I don't need, or use masking tape. When I see the elaborate lengths folks have to go to when using the stuff, I'm glad I don't!

                        Please keep in mind boys, this is more of an exercise in seeing if I can transfer my sometimes over fertile imagination to the end of a paintbrush onto the aircraft.
                        In no shape or form are my efforts supposed to be historically accurate. The aircraft I'm using is a load of b*****ks for a start!

                        Thanks again for your contributions to this thread.

                        Ron

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                        • Steve-the-Duck
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                          • Jul 2020
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                          • Chris
                          • Medway Towns

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jakko
                          I’d say it’s fairly clear what they were trying to achieve here: not hide the plane as such, but make the enemy be confused about where exactly it is, which direction it’s heading, and/or how fast. I suspect it won’t have worked all that well, else it would likely have been a lot more common.
                          When they were actually tested in the air, the different blocks of colours tended to blur into one greyish shape. As for dazzle patterns on ships, they're LOTS of fun!

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                          • spanner570
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                            • May 2009
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                            #28
                            Apart from darkening things a tad and a bit of sharpening up of the paintwork, I'm happy with this 'Arrangement' for the main wings and tailplane.

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                            Cheers.
                            Ron

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                            • Steve-the-Duck
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                              • Jul 2020
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                              • Chris
                              • Medway Towns

                              #29
                              There are pictures of a P51A in a 'dazzle' pattern on the fuselage and undersides, which was apparently a one-off in 1943. There were a few pre-war three-colour camo experiments too
                              This P40 can be listed a 'why not' rather than a 'what if'!

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                              • Andy T
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                                • Apr 2021
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                                • Sheffield

                                #30
                                Looking most excellent Ron!

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