P-47 Thunderbolt 1/8th construction

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P47 Thunderbolt construction

Well Gang, back again.

I have made some progress sindce the last downlaod, finnished skinning the wings. The process starts with the leading edge skin first and then the aft. We complete the bottom of the wing first and then the top. Before the top skin goes on you will see that we have to use the jig tabs supplied, this keeps the wing from warping. Critical error if missed. From there we move on to seperate the flaps. These are optional on this model bit i have built them in for better landing and take off control. Once the flaps are cut away a oblong leading edge is glued into place along with the contol horn. These have to be sculpted into shape with a razor plane and permagrit block. This was very fiddlie as you have to make sure that every thing fits we when ll in place and lines up with the upper wing skin. I have yet to complete the wing tips and the leading edge. You will also see, at the leading edge in the middle, the dowles that are required to retain the wing into the fuse. The servos are in place for the drop tank and the ailrons. I have cut the hatched for the flap servos and they are added later. I thought that once the skins have gone on we would be fibre glassing... Looks like i have a little more work to do before we get to that stage.

Andy

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Wow any bigger Andy and you'll be able to sit in it and fly it, man that's a great build of a great plane wish I could do stuff like that. I have a Red Baron here I got from a magazine and now I wish I never had bought that dammned:censored2 thing it's caused me so much trouble:emo10: but this year I intend with the help of the Red Baron Tutorial by Barry (womwinglo):respect1: , to finish the thing once and gfor good or blow it up complete by sending it into space :sobbing:

Dingo :cool2:

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Wow any bigger Andy and you'll be able to sit in it and fly it, man that's a great build of a great plane wish I could do stuff like that. I have a Red Baron here I got from a magazine and now I wish I never had bought that dammned:censored2 thing it's caused me so much trouble:emo10: but this year I intend with the help of the Red Baron Tutorial by Barry (womwinglo):respect1: , to finish the thing once and gfor good or blow it up complete by sending it into space :sobbingingo :cool2:

Hi Mate,

How is it now down under, hope things are getting better for you all. Thanks for your comments on the build. I'm sure you would do just as good a job. I dont have the experience of all you people on here. This is my very first build project ever. At this scale it is fairly easy because of the size and the kit quality is second to non, TOPFLITE GOLD EDITION. I was also introduced to YELLOW Planes. Find them on the search engine and have a look at their gear. Of course there is the cost factor also to consider. Because this is my first project i have had to set up a good work shop with 3 benches and brought all of the tools i need to do any job i may come across, in all i must have spent around £4500.00. The next project will cost a whole lot less as i have all the tooling. The idea is to build the P47, fly it and then sell it. This will return some money and pay for the next project.

I will be uploading the next set of pics tomorrow, further construction of the wings.

Keep well.

Andy

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P47 D Thunderbolt Construction 1/8th Scale

Hi Gang,

Back again... well things now are starting to get good. We can see a light at the end of the tunnel. We have the wings 99% complete, the Fuse 99% complete, the Stab & Fin 99% complete. We are now at the filling and filleting stage. Next will be fibre glassing. Pics below show that we have now seperated the flaps and the alerons. These had to be shaped at the leading edge and the horn blocks fitted. The flaps and alerons are then fitted back to the wing so that the wing tip blocks can be added and sculped into shape. Permagrit blocks are a god send for this job along with the razor plane. With all this done you will see that the wings meet the fuse for the first time in the build. This stage we have to create a fillet where the fuse meets the wing, I will show this when i have got some snaps. It is now that you realise just how big this beutiful plane is.

Andy

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Hi Andy,

I have been following this build with interest and I must admit it is certainly starting to take shape now and looking very nice indeed. I love the work you have done on it so far. I can see this one being a really nice plane once she is finished.

I only have to look at photo's like this just to get me in a building mood and that is a good thing !!.

Keep us posted with pics.

Regards......Mark

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Hi Andy,I have been following this build with interest and I must admit it is certainly starting to take shape now and looking very nice indeed. I love the work you have done on it so far. I can see this one being a really nice plane once she is finished.

I only have to look at photo's like this just to get me in a building mood and that is a good thing !!.

Keep us posted with pics.

Regards......Mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your valuable comments... most appreciated. I must say that i have impressed myself with this one. i only took up this hobby of building in October and this is my first ever. It has not been easy as it is a hard project for a beiggner to start with. Most of the big kits today come preformed in fibre glass and all you have to do is add the retracts, servos, etc and then paint it. Not very challanging. This is an old kit that was left behind by an old chap rest his sole. I guess he never got round to building it. There is a type face letter in the box that someone sent him giving a bit of history about a certain Thunderbolt. Not sure of the date of it, i cant remember but it is very old. Once i have finnished the kit i will scan the letter and put it on the site. I will try to see if his relatives/widow are still at the address and drop them a line along with some pics and would dedicate this build to him. I know it was around August time his widow took all of his things into my local model shop inc a couple of planes that he had finnished but never flew. He used to hang them up for display. The engine i have for this model is from a plane that he displayed, it is a couple of years old but has never been run, still as good as new. May he rest in peice.

Andy

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Hi Andy,

That would certainly be a nice gesture to send the pics to the relatives as I am sure they will be thrilled to know the plane has lived on and done out in the scheme he was looking at.

I am certainly looking forwards to seeing the finished plane, You have done this one proud so far considering this is your first kit. I can only imagine we are going to see even better things in the future judging by the work so far. Keep it up !!

Regards........Mark

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Hi Andy,That would certainly be a nice gesture to send the pics to the relatives as I am sure they will be thrilled to know the plane has lived on and done out in the scheme he was looking at.

I am certainly looking forwards to seeing the finished plane, You have done this one proud so far considering this is your first kit. I can only imagine we are going to see even better things in the future judging by the work so far. Keep it up !!

Regards........Mark

Thanks Mark,

I have uploaded thew docs i spoke about. As you can see this goes back to 1977, quite a time ago eh!. All i need to do is find out the color scheme from the information in the letter. The Freeveiw is exactly as the plane will be finnished so that if i compete it will have a nice peice of history for the docs book.

If you think that you can assist in pointing me in the right direction or if any mambers can help i would be grateful. I dont think for one minute that i'm going to find the chap who sent this original letter.

Cheers

Andy

P.S. You are too kind, but thanks for the comments.

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Hi Andy,

I just did a quick Google Image search on "Penrod & Sam" and it does throw up a few results. So worth a try.

One result can be found on the link below:

Google Image Result for http://www.cybermodeler.net/aircraft/p-47/images/P-47D21_Robert_Johnson.jpg

And another pic of the same plane below - this should be a nice easy colour scheme to do.

Regards..........Mark

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Hi Andy,I just did a quick Google Image search on "Penrod & Sam" and it does throw up a few results. So worth a try.

One result can be found on the link below:

Google Image Result for http://www.cybermodeler.net/aircraft/p-47/images/P-47D21_Robert_Johnson.jpg

And another pic of the same plane below - this should be a nice easy colour scheme to do.

Regards..........Mark

Thanks for your help with this Mark. It is a shame really as i did want to try to avoid Silver. There are a lot of variation for the P47 and i did fancy one or two of the camo schemes. Now i am torn.

Thanks

Andy

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Hi Andy,I just did a quick Google Image search on "Penrod & Sam" and it does throw up a few results. So worth a try.

One result can be found on the link below:

Google Image Result for http://www.cybermodeler.net/aircraft/p-47/images/P-47D21_Robert_Johnson.jpg

And another pic of the same plane below - this should be a nice easy colour scheme to do.

Regards..........Mark

Looking closer at the image, i would say that this is not silver but grey. I'm happy again. This scheme would be easier to spray and would be the exact patern of the original. This will help loads as you know i am a beginer and that also relates to spray painting.

Cheers again

Andy

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P47 D Thunderbolt Construction 1/8th Scale

Hi Gang,

Time again for an update. The wings are on the fuse again. The wing fillets have been filled, sanded, filled and sanded again. Now this is done and the wings are fitted its time to complete the lower part of the fuse as this is a semi mid wing plane so to say. The formers are set in place and the stringers are fitted. Additional stringers are required for the support of the drop tank mechanism. To accomdate this i have fixed an extra stringer either side of the centre stringer at the location of the the drop tank fitting. We now have only one skin left to fit to this Jug and that will be tomorrow, i'm looking forward to it as from here on in the real fun starts... A little more filling once the skin is complete and we are off to the good times, out will come the resin and the glass.

Like the cockpit i have dumped topflites moulded Turbo Cooler flaps and constructed my own from G10.

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P47 D Thunderbolt Construction 1/8th Scale

Well gang,

Here we go. I am now at about half way stage on this project and we have the last peice of the skin fitted. What a struggle to part the wings from the fuse, even though i put grease proof paper between the joints, the Zap got everywhere and i was fighting for half an hour to seperate the buggers. Anyway i manged in the end and as you can see she looks the biz. Moving on to the engine cowl you will see Topflite moulded effort. It comes in three parts and has to be cut and dremeled to perfection. I wasn't happy with the soild moulding of the flaps, wouldnt look scale at all. So i got to cutting and fileing and then added some lytho plate ( great stuff if you can find it and its free) added some cut peices of evergreen rod to provide an hinge effect. When painted and weathered it should look the biz. I still have to add some more detail to it yet, there are some brass release catches that have to be installed so i will get some brass shim stock tomorrow. Also we have to create the exhaust pipes that stick out of the bottom. Looking forward to the weekend, the fibre glassing begins. I will be happy then because the plane will have a good solid hard covering, at the moment it is very soft and i have to handle it very carefully.

Andylane:

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Well gang,Here we go. I am now at about half way stage on this project and we have the last peice of the skin fitted. What a struggle to part the wings from the fuse, even though i put grease proof paper between the joints, the Zap got everywhere and i was fighting for half an hour to seperate the buggers. Anyway i manged in the end and as you can see she looks the biz. Moving on to the engine cowl you will see Topflite moulded effort. It comes in three parts and has to be cut and dremeled to perfection. I wasn't happy with the soild moulding of the flaps, wouldnt look scale at all. So i got to cutting and fileing and then added some lytho plate ( great stuff if you can find it and its free) added some cut peices of evergreen rod to provide an hinge effect. When painted and weathered it should look the biz. I still have to add some more detail to it yet, there are some brass release catches that have to be installed so i will get some brass shim stock tomorrow. Also we have to create the exhaust pipes that stick out of the bottom. Looking forward to the weekend, the fibre glassing begins. I will be happy then because the plane will have a good solid hard covering, at the moment it is very soft and i have to handle it very carefully.

Andylane:

Hi Gang,

Had a close look at the engine cowl on this one and decided that the flaps were not enough. A picture of the Penrod & Sam revealed that the engine cover is made up of 4 parts and is fasterned together with brass release catches. I have made the cut-outs for these and will be copying them from brass shim stock. The next stage was to cut out the cowl ring from a peice of stock 14 inch by 1 1/2 inch by 3/8. This had then to be formed into the relative peices. The drawing image shows the location on the engonge fire wall. Next you will see that the fibre glass has started to go on. We'll soon have the spray guns out gang.

Andy

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P47 D Thunderbolt Construction 1/8th Scale

Hi Gang,

I'll give this another go... this is my third attempt to upload this installment. The cowl detail looks good now that i have got rid of the mould look. I have checked the free veiw that i have got of Penrod & Sam and it appears that the cowl is in 4 sections and is retained by no less than 8 brass catches. I have cut out the recesses for these and will make them from Brass shim stock. The next part of the project was to cut out and shape the cowl ring from a staright peice of stock. You will also see that i have now started to fibre glass the model. Wont be long now gang, we will soon have the spary guns out.

Andy

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