Sukhoi SU-33 Flanker D - Aircraft Carrier Bourne 1/72 Zvezda

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Hi All, Have now joined the two fuselage halves together after adding some ballast to the nose. Have shortened the tail, cut off the leading edge slats and and trailing edge Flaperons and split them. Have also tried to simulate the hinge on the wing by using some scrap telephone wire, removing the insulation, nicking it with a blunt blade to simulate the hinge bosses and super gluing it to a groove cut with a triangular needle file. Have shown one of the wings against a photo of a SU-33 wing hinge. Have also fixed the empty wings to the fuselage. Cheers Derek

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[Guest]

Hi Derek

I'm really inpressed with your work. Mind you, i think you're absolutely brave for having Zvezda. I've never bought an aircraft kit from them but armour... ohhhhh bad memories. They're the only company (i think) which produces the GAZ soviet truck - nice little thing but the half og the plastic on the sprues were bent.

When you finish your plane, you should post it on their website. They have a nice gallery there on Zvezda.ru

Looking forward to seeing the finished masterpiece mate.

Paul

[stona]

A quote from Rudyard Kipling is obviously needed here!

"By the livin' Gawd that made you,

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"

Great stuff. It's always a bit of a heart in mouth moment when you make the first cut on a project like this but yours look to be working. Maybe you should post it on Zvezda's web site,as Paul suggests, to show how it should have been done.

Cheers

Steve

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Hi Paul and Steve, many thanks for your words of encouragement. I think I must be a glutton for punishment, but I do love my Flanker’s; for me they are one of the most graceful aircraft to take to the skies; having said that my next model will be strictly OOB. Paul, I used to travel to Moscow in the early 80’s, before glasnost, on business a fascinating city. I will always remember the Brides going to the War Memorial and laying down their bouquets after their wedding, very touching. I stayed in the Metropol Hotel, just by Red Square, and just opposite the then KGB building. Cheers Derek

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Hi All, have now reinstalled the leading edge slats and the trailing edge flaps and ailerons. Have also mounted the tailerons and the air intakes after first painting the internals. I have left off the tail fin to make painting the very long engine/flame pipes more easy. I learnt that the hard way when I did my SU-27 Flanker B. Decided to fit the airbrake closed so as not to spoil the profile of the aircraft. Cheers Derek

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[Ian M]

That is a very nice bit of work that!

I admire your bravardo, as Steve said, its always a heart in mouth thing when you pick up the razorsaw and start the first cut. I have sent many a project to the parts bin that way. Those where the days.

I tend to be a bit of a chicken these days and either stay well away from the 'problem' kits or find ways around things.

Looking forward to the next instalment!!

Ian M

[Guest]

Just a quick one on the 33's the wings are a lot deeped front to back (more surface area for lift)

Just woundering how you are hoing to do that part?

Only cause I cannot think of a good way and was sort of looking for help or devine intervention whoever comes up with best offer lol

[Guest]

Hi Ian, thanks for your interest, yes my next one will be OOB, or maybe I should just alter the....................... Cheers Derek

Hi Rik, Are you making a SU-33 - Details Please !!!!. To try to answer your question I have seen quoted the wing surface area of a SU-27 is 62m^2 against 67.8m^2 for the SU-33, so its not a massive difference. I do not know how they establish the setting out points for calculating the wing areas. I believe the trailing edge of the wing is less swept back, this being achieved by deepening the root of the wing, and keeping the tip the same. The Russian website below gives access to some basic drawings and photos which are very helpful to the modeller. This website covers many Russian Aircraft, you will need the Google Toolbar or similar to translate. As mentioned in my Posting #9 because the Italeri kits wing is significantly larger that the Zvezda's I do not plan to make any changes (see photo attached). However if I were to do so. I think I would cut the wing just forward of the flaperon hinge position and fit a taper wedge where the cut was made, using either plastic card or old scrap plastic from other kits (I never throw out any redundant plastic from old kits for this reason, saved my bacon many a time). Of course you then have the fun of blending in the modified wing root to the fuselage. Hope this is of some use. Cheers Derek

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[Guest]

Hi Derek I fount this on the web and I know its in 1:32 but this guy has taken a huge job on and so far so good.

Sukhoi Flanker model 1/32

[Guest]

Hi Rik, Have been looking at the website www.rusjet.ru and it gives a fairly detailed spec sheet which seems to be more authoritative than the website I saw previously, which was of the hobby type. According to the above website the SU-27 has a wing area of 62.037m^2 against 62.00m^2 for the SU-33, so essentially they seem to be the same - so who do you believe????. Cheers Derek

[Guest]

Hey sorry not knoking your model or data just thought the link might give ideas nothing more, so sorry for how it may have come accross.

I thought the guy had guts to cut that kit up at the cost of those things there not cheap lol. I think the standard su-27 has more wing due to no canards or that what I seem to see in other stuff on them. I like both versions of the plane

[Guest]

Rik, No offence taken, perhaps you thought I was being sharp with my end comment 'so who do you believe' all I meant was you look at two websites and get two answers. Anyway I looked up Sukhoi's own website unfortunately they don't quote wing areas, but the website www.air-technology.com agrees with the www.rusjet.ru website, so I think it is fair to say there is no significant difference in wing area (glad I didn't modify my model), although like you, until now I was under the impression there was a difference in wing area. I agree that what the guy is doing deserves a medal. Cheers Derek

p.s. there used to be a conversion kit, no longer in production, which allowed the conversion of the 1/48 Academy SU-27 to a SU-27K (SU-33) with folding wings - that would have been nice.

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Hi All, Have re-shaped the tail by adding on some scrap plastic and cutting/filing, also added the exhaust nozzles and painted the exhaust area with Xtracolor - X508 Burnt Iron (looks more like steel to me). I then sealed this area with Micro Gloss and painted it with a mix of Revell enamel paint Steel + Brass and added some Black for the end nozzle section. This will again be sealed with Micro Gloss and dirtied up later. I see that the SU-33 has a re-fueling probe on the port side just fwd of the cockpit, so am about to start to scratch build something for this, this probe is visible at all time, and not hidden behind a panel like most aircraft when retracted. Cheers Derek

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[Guest]

Hi All, have now dirtied up the engine exhaust so it will be ready for masking off tomorrow. Have also made up a refuelling probe from the airbrake hydraulic cylinder I didn't use, and scooped out the recess to fit. Have removed the Canards from the reinforcing shoulder which are the wrong shape, as I want to fix them at an angle. Have fitted the reinforcing shoulder and filled in the area with milliput super fine putty; will leave overnight to dry before filing to shape. Cheers Derek

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[Guest]

Some great work going into this one Derek.