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    #16
    Hi Ian, great job so far, I will follow this one with great interest since my next build planned is the 1/48 Tamiya 1/48 F16C Block 25/32, so it will be very interesting to compare kit quality. Cheers Derek

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    • Ian M
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      • Dec 2008
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      #17
      Well I had a stab at doing one of the decals on the tail last night. Big mistake!!! I think I should of let them dry over night after locking the decal's ink down. Or maybe I should just have given it more. Dont know.

      The resulting mess was quite amussing, to say the least. It wasnt that the ink began to bleed out. It sort of smudged when I tried to position the decal in the right place!!! Not a pretty sight!

      Any ways, the next copy of the decal was given five (!) coats of acrylic varnish. With about 10 mins between coats. No signs of bleed. So now my dialema is do I go for it, or do I give it a couple of coats extra....

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      • Ian M
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        #18
        Well i gave it a couple of coats more and they are now drying under the cover to try keeping the dust off!!

        So I think I will use the time going over the kit reveiw side of this build:

        The quality of the moldings are very good Plenty of detail OOB but plenty of scoope for the addition of finer stuff, Hoses and cables etc. The cocl pit was quite well detailed but never having been in one I can make on claims on accuracy! The detail looks fine to me once its been painted and dry brushed. The Seat is one of the areas that could be better. The Canopy can by posed closed or, with the addition of the bottom frame supports to the inside, in the open possition. My choice fell for the closed version due to to things. Did not find one photo of one parked up with the canopy up. Could not get the support/inner frame to fit!!!

        The canopy! There is a mold seam right down the middle of it. So I was able to test out my newly purchased polishing stick- Works really well!

        The Generat fit of the kit was very good and there were the usual tricky bits that one tends to find on most kits.

        The Instuctoins are probably the weakest point. Printed on A4 paper, folded into a small book = A5 and is just to small. Also they are a bit unclear in places with parts suddenly appearing on the next drawing with out explanation or part numbers!!!

        The Absolute worst thing was the painting/decaling guide. It almst seems that they forgot them, So a black and white photocopy, of not to good a quality, again in A4 both sides. One side has the profiles of the FOUR versions covered by the decals; Norway, Holland, Belgium and Denmark. The reverse has two top and two bottom veiws. As a pointer the lenght of the profile pictures is a huge 11cm from the tip of the nose to the rear of the exhaust! A simple line and a number tels where the decals should be.

        The Decals! They are pretty good actually. Thin and well printed with no register problems. There is one sheet for the aircraft and an other for the weapons. I never knew there could be so many decals on a bomb!!!

        They go on well and have no obvious problems. They like Micro set/sol too!

        So if I was to describe it in one sentance? A good kit, well detailed and molded at a price that is ok.

        Would I buy another kit from Kinetic? Yes there is a good chance that I will.

        Hope that that was not to boring.

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          #19
          Not boring at all Ian, very informative. I love the work you have done on those decals. Home made is something I have never had a go at but the more I see of what can be done, the more I want to try it. I will be getting a new ink jet printer soon so if anyone can recommend one that they know works well with decal papers, I would love to know. Before anyone says Laser, there is no way I can afford, or would want, a colour laser. We do have an Epson on Kate's PC but I want one dedicated to my Mac as printing over the network is always an issue.....

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          • Ian M
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            • Ian
            • Falster, Denmark

            #20
            Well the decal is on the tail. Sort of! I must admit i am pleased with the decal but the fit could of been better, so I had to touch it up at the edges. Being me I did not think of matching the red ground of the decal with ANY of the red paint that I have!!! Result, Erm, Sยค"t mismatch!

            I am also a bit worried about the fact that the decal is not sticking at the leading edges!!! I will let it sit for a day or two then decide wether or not to let it be. Change the decal colour and start again, or paint the darn thing again and get busy with the frisk film!!! ( :-( )

            Graham; I use a canon printer and there printer soft ware. They claim that if the picture is taken on a canon the printed picture will have the exact colourmatch! Its also very quiet in use!

            Ian M

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              #21
              Ian, the decal it self looks superb. Looking at the picture I think even fading the touch-up with an AB, as I mentioned in my PM, would still be conspicuous, especially if you plan on giving it a gloss coat. Given the type of surface and size of it, I'd say; MircoSol it and put on another one.

              /Daniel

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              • Ian M
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                • Dec 2008
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                • Ian
                • Falster, Denmark

                #22
                Hi Daniel, As in Microsol it off i presume. DIY decals and Mirco sol are ant very good freinds. It is however ecelent at removing them LoL.

                At the moment E-194 is parked up waiting for me to make up my mind. One thing is pretty much a dead cert! That decal has got to go :-(

                The big question is can I paint that tiny little lion compleat with the drop shadow...i will have a few goes at cutting a mask and see how that goes, before I commit to any thing right now.

                I did the mask for the ID code E-194 which came out sort of OK and I got the mask off in time that the small amount of under bleed ('cause I forgot that trick with painting with the same colour as the back ground, before painting with the actual colour) was easy to wipe away with a pointy cotton bud thing.

                The only thing getting painted this weekend are the upstairs windows. Three days of sunshine!!! should give be tie for that!!!

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                  #23
                  Hi Ian, another trick is to paint over the mask with a light coat of Klear, this stops bleeding. Pressing down the edge of the mask with a cocktail stick sharpened to a chisel point is great. Cheers Derek

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                  • Ian M
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                    • Dec 2008
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                    • Ian
                    • Falster, Denmark

                    #24
                    Yep I knew that to. some times I use the background colour others klear. I just forgot to do it! I think it was due to being a bit miffed over the tail.

                    Still, a good tip for others to learn by my mistakes! :-/

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                      #25
                      Ian, in case you hav'nt come across this photo, thought you might be interested. Cheers Derek

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                      • Ian M
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                        • Dec 2008
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                        • Falster, Denmark

                        #26
                        Hi Derek.

                        Didnt actually have that one but its now in the file with the others. Thank you.

                        The saga so far. I did a peel and the tail has been stripped right back to the plastic and a coat of white primmer sprayed on. Then its going to get a caot of gloss white and then a new decal. I have painted a swatch or Vallejo flat red and scanned it into photoshop and adjusted the red on the deacal to the same colour. So if there are any problems the touch ups will be reasonably close to the right colour.

                        My only dialema now is do I print the decal on clear or white. I am hoping that the nic gloss white will counter the transparant issues.

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                          #27
                          Hi Ian, was reading an article recently, someone was building a Trumpeter 1/32 Sabre with a red tail, and he undercoated it yellow, he recons it prevents the cherry red look. Never tried it myself. Cheers Derek

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                          • Ian M
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            • Ian
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                            #28
                            Know what you mean Derek. Yellow is the best undercoat for red. It brings out the depth and make the red nice and strong/rich. Also its easier to cover than white.

                            The reason I will paint the tail white is if I print the decal out on the clear paper, I will need the white under the decal to show as the white parts of the decal... smart eh!

                            Looking forwards to seing your one from tamiya.

                            Ian M
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                              #29
                              Hats off to you guys who model modern birds, just splendid.

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                              • Ian M
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                                • Dec 2008
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                                • Ian
                                • Falster, Denmark

                                #30
                                take three!

                                Well I finnaly got up the nerve to attack the decals on the tail again.

                                I printed them out on the clear decal paper and will rely on the white painted tail fin to do the rest.

                                One set that got sealed with klear developed, an although unwanted effect, a nice crackeled effect like antic paint work! I think I gave it to much in one go!

                                The next got good old Vallejo glossy varnish. Thin coats this time but loads of them! That worked a bit better.

                                So having had to or three days to dry I cut them up and put them on!!!

                                For those yet to try DIY decals, a word of warning. They do not slide in the same way that commercial decals do, so they have to be very close to the place they need to be. more than a couple of mm and you are reaching for the water and a brush. Which cant be to good for the glue!

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                                All I need to do now is put all the other decals and stencils on!

                                Right now these are being left to dry and I hope the darn things settle down and dont curl up at the edges like that last time!

                                There are unfortunatly gaps, which I will have to live with. From a distance with one eye closed they dont look to bad.

                                Ian M

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