Tamiya's Lancaster build.

[Guest]

Nice to see another big-un' being made! Hope you enjoy building the nacelles :bangin:

When you come to making the canopy up please to my advice and check that

the side windows are not a really tight fit! 99.9% of the kits windows are not

good and with them being a tight fit it will crack your canopy in the corners

and IT WILL CRACK and IT WILL RUIN your model! You need the windows to

fit nicely and not be tight.

Looking forward to more updates.

I'm in the process of making VeRA the Canadian Lanc' and that is a nightmare :granade:

Cheers.

Ian.

[stona]

Thanks Ian. I will definitely bear that in mind once I get to the canopy! I know that you are a man who has built a lot more Lancasters than I have

I stole the interior colour scheme (sort of) from one of your builds somewhere. I was going to do it all in Night but rather liked a bit of Interior Green as well.

I've made the first stage of the nacelles and test fitted them to the lower wings without too much strife. We'll see what happens when I offer them up to the entire wings. I won't be fitting the engines provided so hopefully the rest will fit okay.

I've also made the rather elaborate undercarriage assemblies. I'm not looking forward to masking them off once fitted in the wings.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

I've also made the rather elaborate undercarriage assemblies. I'm not looking forward to masking them off once fitted in the wings. Cheers Steve

Instead of masking up the undercarriage which may break something when you remove the tape,

make yourself two little boxes which will go over the undercarriage and fit inside the wheel well.

They are simple to make and all you need to have is thin card/scissors and standard masking paper tape

push the card down the sides of the undercarriage and bend at the corners so it fits in and blocks off any

area's any over-spray that may foul up any nice painting of the silver undercarriage, Then use the wide masking

tape to actually strengthen the box. Fitting the main-wheels is the last job you do.

Go on make the boxes you will be glad you did and it will stop your undercarriage from being snapped off

I've found having this little boxes most valuable too in protecting the undercarriage from any bangs as you build the 'whoppa'

[stona]

Excellent idea Ian,thanks.I foresee a couple of card/tape boxes in my near future!

If the fit is good enough I intend to attach the wings at the end having built them as seperate elements. I know you've done this in the past. Fingers crossed as my work bench will struggle to accomodate the full sized model.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Excellent idea Ian,thanks.I foresee a couple of card/tape boxes in my near future!If the fit is good enough I intend to attach the wings at the end having built them as seperate elements. I know you've done this in the past. bench will struggle to

Cheers Steve

The box idea has been copied by many tamiya lanc' builders and thanked god knows how many times,

One modellers who masked his undercarriage up that well actually pulled his undercarriage apart :-(

Then he saw my reply about the box idea which was twelve or more posts before his breakage.

These little boxes can be made for other types of aircraft models and are a god-send.

You'll find there is no need to glue the wings into the fuselage if you don't want to as its quite strong on its own.

Regarding the kit decals I would not use the wing roundels as they are too small.

Cheers.

Ian.

[flyjoe180]

That's a great idea Ian, cheers.

[stona]

I'm battling along with this thing when I can.

I've joined the wing halves without too much grief and have also started to join the fuselage halves. I had to remove all the locating pins to enable the two halves to line up correctly. Very odd,like building a huge vacform kit!

I have also finished the undercarriage and dry fitted it. I had to remove a couple of locating "bumps" on the upper wing to make these fit too.

The fit of the nacelles,the inner ones in particular,is not fantastic. I see some fettling will need to be done.

This is an old kit and it shows

I'll stick up some photos when I get a working camera back. I tried with my phone but the results were even worse than usual.

Cheers

Steve

[stona]

Any opinions on the colour inside the canopy and behind the cockpit?

Generally this seems to be done in Dark Green which is what I've done before. Tamiya suggest black which seems unlikely. The problem is I seem to remember that area on the nose section preserved at the IWM being black!

I also remember reading a document which said that the external canopy frame should be painted in one colour,Dark Earth (like Hendon's?)and not follow the disruptive scheme. I can't find it for love nor money and wonder if anyone else can confirm it. Again I remember the IWM example being Dark Green!

Steve

[Guest]

Do the area under the canopy dark green in either Humbrol 116 matt green or at a push if you haven't got this green use Humbrol 163 satin green

hardly any difference in these greens other than one is matt and the other is satin, remember it should be matt though.

Don't do it black unless you are working from an actual picture of a certain Lanc' your modelling, eg' all white tiger Force Lanc's had a satin black rear section.

Working on my Tamiya Lanc' today Steve and I got a super-glue mark on the nav' side of the main canopy window!! GOD I'M ANGRY

[Guest]

Oh and paint the canopy brown and green very similar to Tamiya's instructions.

Ensure the back half is green though and not brown.

You can see these B/W and colour pictures shows the green/brown border-line

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/Lancaster-Archive/WP%20Source/Aussie-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/Lancaster-Archive/WP%20Source/BarbaraMaryW4157.jpg

Oh and the nose section at IWM is green and brown by the way....





http://sceptre63.deviantart.com/art/lancaster-front-end-IWM-111559820

Keep up the good work Steve and this thread is useless without pic's.....lol

Ian.

[stona]

this thread is useless without pic's.....lolIan.

It is far from ideal of course and not my usual style! I'm hoping to retrieve a camera tomorrow and will get some piccies up with any further progress.

BTW for the Dark Green I'll be using White Ensign's version (from their colourcoat range) which I've used before and very much like the look of. I'm a bit low on their version of Dark Earth,which I also like. Half a tinlet probably won't do a thing this size ! WEM list it as currently out of stock so I may have to revert to good old Humbrol 29 as a base for that. I'm a loooong way from painting camouflage in any case.

The IWM front end is supposedly original isn't it? I'll go with that anyway.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

The IWM front end is supposedly original isn't it? I'll go with that anyway.Cheers

Steve

F for 'Freddy' is the only big piece of a Lancaster which has never been re-painted or tampered with.

There is also a small section of WS*J at Newark Air Museum which is also original.....

Fuselage of Lancaster Bomber, Newark Air Museum | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Now were is your camera

:anicam:

[stona]

Here's an overview of the progress so far.

I built one of these years ago and I remember it fitting on a corner shelf which I still have. Looking at the size of this one I just can't see how!

I'll do some more detailed sgots as I assemble these bits 'n' bobs.

Steve

[stona]

I've attached those pesky inner nacelles. On one side I had to make some "adjustments to the undercarriage assembly,I've no idea why!

The front of the nacelle wing join is neat enough but insubstantial.

I was going to strengthen this with some card on the inside but in the end went for superglue and baking powder.

That all for today folks. More later.

Cheers

Steve

[spanner570]

I've just had a nice read of this build of yours Steve, and am most impressed with the prep work and progress.....

Cheers,

Ron