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  • stona
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    • Jul 2008
    • 9889

    #61
    Ian I'm always glad of advice,particularly from someone who has built many of these before.

    I wish I'd done my nacelles that way! I'm not happy with them and have put them aside for a while. There's a bit of remedial work to be done,followed by some rescribing and maybe even some riveting. Cripes! I haven't had the riveter out for ages,I'm not even sure where it is

    I've been eyeing up a Pacific Coast Fw 190 as some light relief. It too will probably need some work but at least I'm familiar with what I'm trying to build!

    Steve

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    • stona
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      • Jul 2008
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      #62
      Just a quickie as I got an hour in this morning.

      If you really must build the Tamiya Lancaster buy the Eduard pre-cut masks. I masked the front turret in about 10 minutes with these masks. It would have taken an hour if I'd been using my normal tape and sharp scalpel method! It would be made a bit trickier because the molding of the frames is not particularly crisp,at least on my kit.

      The hardest bit is interpreting Eduard's instructions

      Steve

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      • stona
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        • Jul 2008
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        #63
        Not much progress due to other committments.

        I have had a look at Hans-Werner Lerche's book "Luftwaffe Test Pilot-Flying Captured Allied Aircraft of WW2" in an effort to find how a captured Lancaster may have been marked,not for this project but maybe a future,smaller scale,effort.

        I finally came across this. It is in the context of a flight towards Berlin during which the Luftwaffe's night fighters would attempt interceptions and test their various systems against a captured Lancaster.

        "Any flights to Berlin, particularly with a suspicious ‘bird’ like this, had to be duly announced and of course one had to be ready at any moment to fire the currently-required identification flares: the yellow-painted engine nacelles and wing tips and the German crosses alone were no life insurance."

        I guess the Germans couldn't be arsed to paint the entire underside of such a large aircraft yellow,as they would have done for a smaller type.

        Cheers

        Steve

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        • Guest

          #64
          I love these builds. How do you guys get such great detail into eveything? It's amazing.

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            #65
            Originally posted by \
            I love these builds. How do you guys get such great detail into eveything? It's amazing.
            I blame the internet for that. Doggy !

            Back in the day of no PC's we were happy what we made but as we see other models it becomes some kind of competition to do better.

            Steve? No excuses ...... lease:

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            • stona
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              • Jul 2008
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              #66
              Originally posted by \
              Steve? No excuses ...... lease:
              Excuses.....it's the evenings closing in! By the time I get a chance to do anything it's dark and I don't like working,particularly painting,under lights.

              I'm hoping that there'll be something to show this week,maybe by the weekend,otherwise it will be a while as I'll have very little time in the den until the end of November!

              Cheers

              Steve

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                #67
                Originally posted by \
                Excuses.....it's the evenings closing in!
                Around were I live its just been a blanket of fog for the past two days and the street lights have been on all day.

                The dark nights depress me :-(

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                • stona
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #68
                  I've managed to get a basic paint on the various bits.

                  These will get a coat or two of Klear over the next couple of days,once I've resprayed the front and rear turrets to get rid of the "Night"

                  That may then be it for a while as I may find myself away from the bench for a while.

                  Cheers

                  Steve

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                  • stona
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #69
                    I've now started this one again.

                    I applied the red lines on the underside using thedecals from the kit. They were terrible. I effevtively glued them on with Klear. They look okay but might yet come off,allowing me to spray the lines.

                    I will certainly spray the upper surface walkway lines. I've masked off and will spray a suitable dark grey (not black). RLM 66 usually works!

                    Cheers

                    Steve

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                    • spanner570
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                      • May 2009
                      • 15402

                      #70
                      Excellent progress Steve, how you get those thin lines parallel is beyond me!

                      Good stuff...

                      Ron

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                      • Guest

                        #71
                        Originally posted by \
                        I blame the internet for that. Doggy !Back in the day of no PC's we were happy what we made but as we see other models it becomes some kind of competition to do better.

                        /QUOTE]

                        Missed this one.

                        Not changed in a million years Ian. Man has always tried to better what ever confronts us in this world. Even to straighten bananas.

                        A long tradition & I love it the world would be a very boring place without it. Competition. (even at my ancient age it has not dented probably got worse trying to keep up with some of you blokes).

                        Laurie

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                        • Gern
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                          • May 2009
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by \
                          Excellent progress Steve, how you get those thin lines parallel is beyond me!Good stuff...

                          Ron
                          Sorry to barge in on your thread Steve.

                          Ron: couldn't you mark out the lines with thin strips of tape cut to the right width, add your mask using the strips as guides, then remove the marking strips?

                          Gern

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                          • stona
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #73
                            Tamiya have molded some trenches into the wings to represent these lines. I just masked along the edge of their lines and did a quick spray with RLM 66 (dark grey).

                            Part of the problem is that if you apply the decals the coloured part will lie over this trench and the surrounding film will drape over the raised edges,very difficult to prevent silvering.

                            I've just applied some decals to the fuselage and they went on okayish....bizarre.

                            Cheers

                            Steve

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by \
                              I applied the red lines on the underside using the decals from the kit. They were terrible.

                              I effevtively glued them on with Klear. They look okay but might yet come

                              Cheers Steve
                              Did you apply the red lines over the 'out-lines' underneath the wings ? These 'out-lines' are normally the problem

                              as the red decals don't fit flush to the plastic and is a nightmare and silver badly, I've found it best to remove

                              these 'out-lines' so the decal sit flush.

                              The 'out-lines' for the red lines and black upper walk-way lines derive from when the kit was first introduced back

                              in 1976 when you only got wing/fuselage roundels/codes, The rest of the stuff was painted on!

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                              • stona
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                                • Jul 2008
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by \
                                The 'out-lines' for the red lines and black upper walk-way lines derive from when the kit was first introduced back

                                in 1976 when you only got wing/fuselage roundels/codes, The rest of the stuff was painted on!
                                It's not the only way that this kit shows its age!

                                I've had a quick look at the decals that were applied and treated yesterday and they have the most apalling silvering. Looks like I'll be dealing with that next! Sharp knife and Microsol at the ready.

                                Cheers

                                Steve

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