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  • Scratchbuilder
    • Jul 2022
    • 2689

    #271
    Wabble,
    You have come on in leaps and bounds, really looking forward to the paintwork now.
    Wibble.

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    • Jim R
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 15692
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #272
      All the hard work is paying off. A truly impressive improvement.

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      • Airborne01
        • Mar 2021
        • 3968
        • Steve
        • Essex

        #273
        Loving it! Superb work there mate!
        Steve

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        • Steve-the-Duck
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2020
          • 1731
          • Chris
          • Medway Towns

          #274
          This really is the essence of 'old school' modelling - massive upgrades of an OLD kit
          Then you put it on display and someone will go 'I didn't know there was a new kit of that.'

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          • Waspie
            • Mar 2023
            • 3488
            • Doug
            • Fraggle Rock

            #275
            Richard, that offset rudder is a bit of a quandary! I could offer a couple of theories but I doubt they would be the reason.
            Wouldn't imagine it would be torque related as the rotors rotate in opposite directions cancelling any torque effects!!
            Probably more aerodynamic!!!
            Maybe Rick (rickoshea52 ) has a clue what may be the reason.

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            • JayCee
              SMF Supporters
              • Aug 2019
              • 1132

              #276
              This is getting better and better, Richard. When you are finished it will probably fly !
              John.

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              • rickoshea52
                SMF Supporters
                • Dec 2011
                • 4076
                • Rick

                #277
                Originally posted by Waspie
                Richard, that offset rudder is a bit of a quandary! I could offer a couple of theories but I doubt they would be the reason.
                Wouldn't imagine it would be torque related as the rotors rotate in opposite directions cancelling any torque effects!!
                Probably more aerodynamic!!!
                Maybe Rick (rickoshea52 ) has a clue what may be the reason.
                No firm idea tbh. The only thing I can think of is torque reaction or the transition from forward flight to hover and back. The Belvedere was a very early helicopter so the flights controls very rudimentary, the stub wings and finlets suggest it might have needed additional features for stability.
                If you’re desperate to know I’d suggest asking the Helicopter Museum in Weston - super - nightmare for help.
                On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
                Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
                Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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                • rtfoe
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 9083

                  #278
                  Originally posted by scottie3158
                  Looking superb matey
                  Thanks Paul, so far so good.
                  Originally posted by Scratchbuilder
                  Wabble,
                  You have come on in leaps and bounds, really looking forward to the paintwork now.
                  Wibble.
                  Still some fiddly bits to go like the dinghy sponsons Michael before the paints come on.
                  Originally posted by Jim R
                  All the hard work is paying off. A truly impressive improvement.
                  Thank you Jim, from a distance it does, not the close ups I'm afraid.
                  Originally posted by Airborne01
                  Loving it! Superb work there mate!
                  Steve
                  Glad you're loving it Steve and thanks.
                  Originally posted by Steve-the-Duck
                  This really is the essence of 'old school' modelling - massive upgrades of an OLD kit
                  Then you put it on display and someone will go 'I didn't know there was a new kit of that.'
                  Thank goodness I haven't lost the touch and still do the old school stuff Chris. If somebody does a new kit I'll be annoyed but the weird subject won't call for it.
                  Originally posted by Waspie
                  Richard, that offset rudder is a bit of a quandary! I could offer a couple of theories but I doubt they would be the reason.
                  Wouldn't imagine it would be torque related as the rotors rotate in opposite directions cancelling any torque effects!!
                  Probably more aerodynamic!!!
                  Maybe Rick (rickoshea52 ) has a clue what may be the reason.
                  Doug, do you remember the video you shared, well, early prototype didn't have the rudder. the later version with the undercarriage fairings did and only actuated during landing and take off...all pointing starboard. Now was it fixed or abled to be manipulated?
                  Originally posted by JayCee
                  This is getting better and better, Richard. When you are finished it will probably fly !
                  John.
                  :tears-of-joy: John, if it does I'd be surprised.
                  Originally posted by rickoshea52
                  No firm idea tbh. The only thing I can think of is torque reaction or the transition from forward flight to hover and back. The Belvedere was a very early helicopter so the flights controls very rudimentary, the stub wings and finlets suggest it might have needed additional features for stability.
                  If you’re desperate to know I’d suggest asking the Helicopter Museum in Weston - super - nightmare for help.
                  Hi Rick, no worries mate, it's more apparent when the vertical stabilisers on the wing tips were modified to slope down. Anyway my rudder isn't a working feature so I'll leave it at that angle on the ground.

                  Thanks all round for the inputs and comments.

                  Cheers,
                  Wabble

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                  • rtfoe
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 9083

                    #279
                    Hi, haven't done much 'cos am doing kitchen renovations so all the cabinet stuff are in my cave/store room and I can't get to my airbrush. Decided to fabricate the dinghy and sponson from an existing door part and plastic tubing.
                    Shaped the door part into the sponsons and cut out the tubing for the dinghy canister.
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                    I will make a mold and recast the sponsons with putty and round the ends of the canister. Pics later after the process is done.

                    Cheers,
                    Wabble

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                    • boatman
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 14462
                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #280
                      HI Wabble this is very good modelerling on this belverde as ive lived nr
                      RAF COLTISHALL all my life an ive never seen one so keep up the good work an comin
                      chrisb

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                      • rtfoe
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 9083

                        #281
                        Originally posted by boatman
                        HI Wabble this is very good modelerling on this belverde as ive lived nr
                        RAF COLTISHALL all my life an ive never seen one so keep up the good work an comin
                        chrisb
                        Thanks Chris, I'll try to get this done soon as my cave is available.

                        Cheers,
                        Wabble

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                        • rtfoe
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 9083

                          #282
                          Hi, casting the sponsons turned out okay. I made three, one for spare just incase the putty didn't fill the tight spaces.
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                          Picture shows two castings with one still cooking in the mold, the master and one of the canisters. The method here is similar to cookie press and digging out the hardened putty.

                          Cheers,
                          Wabble

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                          • rtfoe
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 9083

                            #283
                            Hi,
                            Sponsons and dinghy canisters ready to be painted and attached.
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                            Notice that I have scratched the hook under the belly.

                            Cheers,
                            Wabble

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                            • scottie3158
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 14201
                              • Paul
                              • Holbeach

                              #284
                              Superb mate.

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                              • Jim R
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 15692
                                • Jim
                                • Shropshire

                                #285
                                Agree. Superb modelling.

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