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**Guest** · 25 June 2015, 20:35

That's a very nice Spit!!

Looks really fine to me

**papa 695** · 25 June 2015, 20:43

That is a very nice Spitfire Phil great job.

**flyjoe180** · 25 June 2015, 21:00

Nothing wrong with that build Phil, awesome result. The weathering you have applied is just right, not overstated and enough to bring the model to life. Great build.

**Guest** · 25 June 2015, 22:29

Great job mate, lovely build

**Guest** · 25 June 2015, 22:45

Think you have cracked it as your first model in 21 years.

Nicely finished as Joe has mentioned understated weathering. Just right even tho. you did not succumb to the gin wine or beer.

Laurie

**Guest** · 25 June 2015, 23:30

That is a wonderful Spitfire Phil, bring on the mext project

**Guest** · 26 June 2015, 01:32

The spit really is outstanding mate. It reflects very well on the spits clean lines. Next time you do a Spit, try using a silver pencil and doing chipping effects around the cowling and the gun bay panels. I bought one of these high quality pencils for $2.40 (I know, for a pencil it is expensive), but it offers great control and realism to weathering at a low cost. Keep in mind that the crowbars were NOT painted red on wartime aircraft. The only reason why I did on my Spit MK VIII, is because I was recreating the currently flying aircraft which has it's crowbar painted red. Usually they were painted the green interior colour of the aircraft.

Looking forward to the Me 262. The U4 mostly operated with JV 44, so the aircraft has an interesting history. If you really want to lift your 262 into a different league, try using a master turned barrel for the flak gun and an eduard etched seatbelt set with airscale dials and placards. I highly recommend using them as eduard don't produce PE for the Dragon 262A series. Don't forget the resin wheels. The kit rubber ones will ruin your wheel hubs if used (over a long period of time). The engine is designed for the Dragon Ho 229, so it will not fit the kit cowlings. Also, the kit engine will benefit from piping and wiring from scratchbuilding. If you don't want to invest in tons of scratchbuilding material, buy an AM option. There is the CMK, Quickboost and Aires Jumo 004 engines around. I recommend the Quickboost one, as it is cheap, requires no putting together and only requires a small amount of sanding to get it to fit to the Dragon kit.

John

**monica** · 26 June 2015, 01:52

superb looking spit,I do like it,

very well done,

**Guest** · 26 June 2015, 02:07

Great looking Spit Phil !

**PhilJ** · 26 June 2015, 12:15

Originally posted by \

The spit really is outstanding mate. It reflects very well on the spits clean lines. Next time you do a Spit, try using a silver pencil and doing chipping effects around the cowling and the gun bay panels. I bought one of these high quality pencils for $2.40 (I know, for a pencil it is expensive), but it offers great control and realism to weathering at a low cost. Keep in mind that the crowbars were NOT painted red on wartime aircraft. The only reason why I did on my Spit MK VIII, is because I was recreating the currently flying aircraft which has it's crowbar painted red. Usually they were painted the green interior colour of the aircraft.
Looking forward to the Me 262. The U4 mostly operated with JV 44, so the aircraft has an interesting history. If you really want to lift your 262 into a different league, try using a master turned barrel for the flak gun and an eduard etched seatbelt set with airscale dials and placards. I highly recommend using them as eduard don't produce PE for the Dragon 262A series. Don't forget the resin wheels. The kit rubber ones will ruin your wheel hubs if used (over a long period of time). The engine is designed for the Dragon Ho 229, so it will not fit the kit cowlings. Also, the kit engine will benefit from piping and wiring from scratchbuilding. If you don't want to invest in tons of scratchbuilding material, buy an AM option. There is the CMK, Quickboost and Aires Jumo 004 engines around. I recommend the Quickboost one, as it is cheap, requires no putting together and only requires a small amount of sanding to get it to fit to the Dragon kit.

John

Hi John

Thanks for that, I had heard about the crowbar not being red but wasn't sure what to do.

Have you got an example/make of the type of silver pencil or is it just a generic type.

I have just started to look into the A1A/U4 and believe there was only two prototypes made, seems difficult to find colour shots online apart from the US captured Wilma Jeanne which I'm not going to do.

Also to be honest you lost me a bit in regards to the PE, remember I'm a newbie what is Airscale and Placards?

Then you put "The engine is designed for the Dragon Ho 229, so it will not fit the kit cowlings. Also, the kit engine will benefit from piping and wiring from scratchbuilding. If you don't want to invest in tons of scratchbuilding material, buy an AM option. There is the CMK, Quickboost and Aires Jumo 004 engines around. I recommend the Quickboost one"

Please tell me that again in Laymans terms, are you saying that the engine that comes with the kit won't fit?

I had a look for PE and had trouble finding it, I would like at least a new instrument panel and seat belts. Will any me262 resin wheels fit the model?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my Naivety, I'll get the hang of it I'm sure

Phil

**PhilJ** · 26 June 2015, 12:15

Thanks for all your nice comments guys!

**Guest** · 26 June 2015, 12:29

Very nice indeed.

Scott

**Guest** · 26 June 2015, 13:01

Originally posted by \

Hi John
Thanks for that, I had heard about the crowbar not being red but wasn't sure what to do.

Have you got an example/make of the type of silver pencil or is it just a generic type.

I have just started to look into the A1A/U4 and believe there was only two prototypes made, seems difficult to find colour shots online apart from the US captured Wilma Jeanne which I'm not going to do.

Also to be honest you lost me a bit in regards to the PE, remember I'm a newbie what is Airscale and Placards?

Then you put "The engine is designed for the Dragon Ho 229, so it will not fit the kit cowlings. Also, the kit engine will benefit from piping and wiring from scratchbuilding. If you don't want to invest in tons of scratchbuilding material, buy an AM option. There is the CMK, Quickboost and Aires Jumo 004 engines around. I recommend the Quickboost one"

Please tell me that again in Laymans terms, are you saying that the engine that comes with the kit won't fit?

I had a look for PE and had trouble finding it, I would like at least a new instrument panel and seat belts. Will any me262 resin wheels fit the model?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my Naivety, I'll get the hang of it I'm sure

Phil

No need to apologise mate. The engine was designed for another kit, and as a result, the cowls will not fit, and also, it is a PLASTIC KIT engine, which means sparse detail. If you want a solution, shoot another question, and there is a wide variety of options. Not everything has to be AM.

As for airscale, they are decals. I ordered them direct from them, very cheaply and at great service as well. I bought the dials and placards in 1/48 and 1/32 for Luftwaffe. Check out these links. And yes, no PE for the dragon 262A-1a. Check out these three links. They are staple for a luftwaffe modeller (like me

)

Please note eduard do make superfabric, and I do use them, but they literally take days to assemble, and are best pursued when you have a few years of modelling experience and patience. Superfabric is basically a thin fabric with PE buckles. Very fiddly and hard to construct. I like them, but they are also extremely hard to use. It possesses small pieces smaller than the normal eduard PE that the carpet monster loves.

Do not order the eduard seatbelts from eduard. Eduard's postage prices are terrible. I recommend BNA model world. Hannants has a spending minimum limit to overseas people, which put me off them forever. Be quick on the seatbelts, as I already bought one from them, which means they only have a few left, as they only keep 2 or 3 left

Also, Check out JV 44, the squadron of experten. They have an intriguing history which is linked to the U4 you are doing

Cheers, John

Instrument panel

http://airscale.co.uk/store.php#!/1-48-scale-Luftwaffe-Placards/p/38102413/category=9842266

http://airscale.co.uk/store.php#!/1-48-scale-Luftwaffe-Cockpit-Decals/p/39313020/category=9842273

Eduard seatbelts

http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/49002.pdf

http://www.bnamodelworld.com/eduard/ed-49002

**Guest** · 26 June 2015, 16:41

Great job Phil. No sign of the modelling skills having got rusty.

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Phil's Eduard spitfire mk IXc late version

Phil's Eduard spitfire mk IXc late version

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