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  • minitnkr
    Charter Rabble member
    • Apr 2018
    • 7532
    • Paul
    • Dayton, OH USA

    #16
    Amen, I get lots of queries on "what do you with this stuff when they're done?" Especially the train layout, but that one is easiest....they're never finished. There's always something to add or improve. It's the building isn't it? PaulE

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    • yak face
      Moderator
      • Jun 2009
      • 13840
      • Tony
      • Sheffield

      #17
      Fantastic looking builds alex , good to see you back . Glad that you've found your mojo again , cheers tony

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      • scottie3158
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 14201
        • Paul
        • Holbeach

        #18
        There is only one person you need to satisfy and that is your good self. My builds are far from the best but they do for me and as long as I get a little better each time and I am still having fun then that is ok. Get the tank built you know you want to. You will get nothing but encouragement on here.

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        • Dave Ward
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #19
          Originally posted by slupanter
          Happy to share, as this forum helped me get back on track due to some great words of wisdom.

          I had my process, and most importantly, I enjoyed modelling. I tried new techniques and had fun with them; I was on FB groups and how-to websites. Then I found that I kept stalling on builds because I constantly compared my work to others online. I thought it was my products; I started buying products left and right: you know what they say about bad workmen. I stopped building, or it took me months or a year to finish something. I realised what the issue was when on a 12hr flight with work to LA that my phone had more images of other people’s models than my own. On that flight, I deleted all the photos of other people’s builds and left 99% of all modelling groups. I only have an FAQ site so I can help answer questions and the model club I run.

          Aircraft have saved the hobby I love so much; I still haven’t retired amour yet, but I have the new Airfix Cromwell in prep and only have reference pictures.

          I hope this explains or even helps someone see that it is YOUR HOBBY and you need to enjoy every bit of it, and it is not for anyone else to tell you otherwise.
          Alexander,
          Its crazy, making what should be a hobby into a source of grief! I started down that route a year or so ago - my particular problem was group builds - building to a deadline eroded my pleasure & put a load of self-imposed stress on me! I decided that I wasn't going to do any more group builds, I would make what I want, and in my own timescale. Looking at other peoples' builds can be unsettling for your ego, but as you say, just don't do it.
          I thought that peer pressure from the internet was confined to spotty adolescents, but I find that I'm just as susceptible in my mid 60's! All self imposed, as well. I'm now enjoying my model making more than ever, fun isn't a word I'd use to describe it, but it comes close!
          Dave

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          • Gern
            SMF Supporters
            • May 2009
            • 9213

            #20
            I sort of see your point Alex. I've also spent many hours looking at amazing builds and many pounds on tools and products in an attempt to match them. In my case though, I concluded many years ago that there was no way my skills would ever bring me up to that sort of level - even if I had years of practise and the best materials and tools that money could buy. Therefore I found I could be reasonably happy producing builds that were slowly improving so the hobby is fun and not a challenge.

            Put it this way. Would you refuse to decorate your bedroom and paint the ceiling because it wouldn't be as good as Michaelangelo's work??

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            • adt70hk
              SMF Supporters
              • Sep 2019
              • 10409

              #21
              Originally posted by slupanter
              Happy to share, as this forum helped me get back on track due to some great words of wisdom.

              I had my process, and most importantly, I enjoyed modelling. I tried new techniques and had fun with them; I was on FB groups and how-to websites. Then I found that I kept stalling on builds because I constantly compared my work to others online. I thought it was my products; I started buying products left and right: you know what they say about bad workmen. I stopped building, or it took me months or a year to finish something. I realised what the issue was when on a 12hr flight with work to LA that my phone had more images of other people’s models than my own. On that flight, I deleted all the photos of other people’s builds and left 99% of all modelling groups. I only have an FAQ site so I can help answer questions and the model club I run.

              Aircraft have saved the hobby I love so much; I still haven’t retired amour yet, but I have the new Airfix Cromwell in prep and only have reference pictures.

              I hope this explains or even helps someone see that it is YOUR HOBBY and you need to enjoy every bit of it, and it is not for anyone else to tell you otherwise.
              Very well said!

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              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18901
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #22
                Bit of a rant here, sorry.....and it’s aimed squarely at the marketing arm of the hobby....
                I think a major problem in this hobby is the available of ready made so called “solutions” to modelling problems....these are supposed to give you gold medal results right out of the box. Things are marketed and written up in magazines as if buying “this solution” from mig, and “that paint”, from Vallejo, followed by ”these add ons” from green stuff world (there are many other companies so insert your own) will enable you to build a world beating model “just like me”.
                It’s pure fantasy. I’m sure all of these are worthy products, but they are no use to you unless they fit in with your own way of working and you are able to get decent results from them. The best modellers would still produce top quality results using much more basic tools and materials, but these products just make it faster for them.
                The trouble is, the marketing hype then puts off those that do not have these learned and innate skills because the results they get don’t come out as expected. The poor modeller then either gives up, or invests even more money in the next shiny new tool or paint range that promises these results, to probably be disappointed yet again.
                The best thing anyone can do is stick with good quality basic tools, paint, etc until they really understand the skills required to get the results they want. You don’t have to master those skills, just understand them. Then, and only then, look around at the esoteric ranges and pick those that you know suit your style, and can give you quicker or more consistent results.

                You can guarantee that those modellers you most want to emulate look at their own work and think “I wish I could do this as well as Harry”, it’s part of human nature.

                The bottom line though is have fun, and unless your aim is to win competitions (something I simply don’t understand), just satisfy yourself as best you can! Your modelling is part of your own unique voice, shout out loud and proud and sod everyone else!

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                • adt70hk
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 10409

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Bit of a rant here, sorry.....and it’s aimed squarely at the marketing arm of the hobby....
                  I think a major problem in this hobby is the available of ready made so called “solutions” to modelling problems....these are supposed to give you gold medal results right out of the box. Things are marketed and written up in magazines as if buying “this solution” from mig, and “that paint”, from Vallejo, followed by ”these add ons” from green stuff world (there are many other companies so insert your own) will enable you to build a world beating model “just like me”.
                  It’s pure fantasy. I’m sure all of these are worthy products, but they are no use to you unless they fit in with your own way of working and you are able to get decent results from them. The best modellers would still produce top quality results using much more basic tools and materials, but these products just make it faster for them.
                  The trouble is, the marketing hype then puts off those that do not have these learned and innate skills because the results they get don’t come out as expected. The poor modeller then either gives up, or invests even more money in the next shiny new tool or paint range that promises these results, to probably be disappointed yet again.
                  The best thing anyone can do is stick with good quality basic tools, paint, etc until they really understand the skills required to get the results they want. You don’t have to master those skills, just understand them. Then, and only then, look around at the esoteric ranges and pick those that you know suit your style, and can give you quicker or more consistent results.

                  You can guarantee that those modellers you most want to emulate look at their own work and think “I wish I could do this as well as Harry”, it’s part of human nature.

                  The bottom line though is have fun, and unless your aim is to win competitions (something I simply don’t understand), just satisfy yourself as best you can! Your modelling is part of your own unique voice, shout out loud and proud and sod everyone else!
                  Couldn't have put it better myself.

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                  • JR
                    • May 2015
                    • 18273

                    #24
                    Well said Tim .

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                    • outrunner
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 2420

                      #25
                      Alexander, comparing your builds to others is a sure fire way to make you feel inferior, just build what you want the way you want, if it makes you happy then it's job done. I build to please myself although I do try to make it the model as good as I can and I know fine that compared to stuff I have seen mine pale into insignificance but it does not get to me, as the saying goes "it's my model and it makes me happy". The models you posted up look great and something to be proud of so keep doing what you are doing and have fun.

                      Andy.

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                      • boatman
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 14456
                        • christopher
                        • NORFOLK UK

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                        Bit of a rant here, sorry.....and it’s aimed squarely at the marketing arm of the hobby....
                        I think a major problem in this hobby is the available of ready made so called “solutions” to modelling problems....these are supposed to give you gold medal results right out of the box. Things are marketed and written up in magazines as if buying “this solution” from mig, and “that paint”, from Vallejo, followed by ”these add ons” from green stuff world (there are many other companies so insert your own) will enable you to build a world beating model “just like me”.
                        It’s pure fantasy. I’m sure all of these are worthy products, but they are no use to you unless they fit in with your own way of working and you are able to get decent results from them. The best modellers would still produce top quality results using much more basic tools and materials, but these products just make it faster for them.
                        The trouble is, the marketing hype then puts off those that do not have these learned and innate skills because the results they get don’t come out as expected. The poor modeller then either gives up, or invests even more money in the next shiny new tool or paint range that promises these results, to probably be disappointed yet again.
                        The best thing anyone can do is stick with good quality basic tools, paint, etc until they really understand the skills required to get the results they want. You don’t have to master those skills, just understand them. Then, and only then, look around at the esoteric ranges and pick those that you know suit your style, and can give you quicker or more consistent results.

                        You can guarantee that those modellers you most want to emulate look at their own work and think “I wish I could do this as well as Harry”, it’s part of human nature.

                        The bottom line though is have fun, and unless your aim is to win competitions (something I simply don’t understand), just satisfy yourself as best you can! Your modelling is part of your own unique voice, shout out loud and proud and sod everyone else!
                        YEA VERY WELL SAID Tim i fully aggree this modeling is supopse to be enjoyable admitly i must say i worry abit on my tiger in case something goes wrong but that due to how much money ive spent on this ship tryin to build it but im still enjoying it when things go right
                        chris

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18901
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #27
                          Spot on Andy!

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18901
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #28
                            Too true Chris. As a wise man once said (well, it was Frank Spenser) “No man that never made nothing, never made any mistakes”.....

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                            • boatman
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 14456
                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                              Too true Chris. As a wise man once said (well, it was Frank Spenser) “No man that never made nothing, never made any mistakes”.....
                              OH MY GAWRD LOL an yea Tim i remeber him sayin that lol

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                              • Tim Marlow
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 18901
                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #30
                                I always liked the way he worked it through in his head after saying it...

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