1/48 ME-109 E3 and FW-190 A8 build

[stona]

That theory stems from a famous piece of colour film,very early,the upper camouflage is still 70/71. In the film a mechanic fits a slat and the underside (inside) colour OF THE SLAT is arguably RLM 65.

I've looked at a lot of photos of Bf109s throughout the war,in the vast majority the area beneath the slat is not visible,partly because the crews tended to push them back in,partly because upper wing surfaces are rarely see in photographs taken by a person of normal height. Luckily for us the Luftwaffe quite often took pictures of aircraft they had managed to crash,and we took photos of the ones we shot down. Because these are either stood on their noses or lie on their bellies (assuming the crash wasn't the type that left a smoking hole in the ground) and because the slats have often deployed that area is visible. It is usually in RLM 02 or the camouflage colour. I'm not saying RLM 65 is impossible,nothing is,just that the weight of evidence supports one of the other options better.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

I wouldnt worry about touching up the blue with a different shade unless you want a factory fresh look.Aircraft were touched up in the field with whatever was available.We still do it today.Just had a skin repair painted on the fuselage of a TNT Boeing 757.Our paint shop didnt have the exact spec orange.So i got them to mix up a similar colour.

Thanks Dave. I think the areas affected are small enough they shouldn't notice if I dont get quite the right shade. My current skill level means I know 100% that I'll mess it up if I try to use weathering to hide it - so a factory finish is what I'm going for at this stage.

I do plan to buy a couple of cheap kits to practice some weathering techniques, only i know once I'm 90% of the way there I'll be reluctant to potentially spoil even my test kits. doh!

[Guest]

That theory stems from a famous piece of colour film,very early,the upper camouflage is still 70/71. In the film a mechanic fits a slat and the underside (inside) colour OF THE SLAT is arguably RLM 65. I've looked at a lot of photos of Bf109s throughout the war,in the vast majority the area beneath the slat is not visible,partly because the crews tended to push them back in,partly because upper wing surfaces are rarely see in photographs taken by a person of normal height. Luckily for us the Luftwaffe quite often took pictures of aircraft they had managed to crash,and we took photos of the ones we shot down. Because these are either stood on their noses or lie on their bellies (assuming the crash wasn't the type that left a smoking hole in the ground) and because the slats have often deployed that area is visible. It is usually in RLM 02 or the camouflage colour. I'm not saying RLM 65 is impossible,nothing is,just that the weight of evidence supports one of the other options better.

Cheers

Steve

I'm convinced. RLM02 it is.

[Guest]

This is one I did many months ago.

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[stona]

Very nice Tony. I usually cheat and pose the slats up :razz:....on the grounds that they were most often (but by no means always) left that way.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Finally got the 109 finished off, though for some reason I have been incapable of taking a non blurry photo of it. This is about the best I could do.

I attempted to find a contemporary photograph of this aircraft but have been unable to find any. Does one exist? I probably should have checked on this first before deciding on (admittedly the easiest) colour scheme.

The FW-190 is still in the same state as despite believing I had ordered the paints I needed, it turned out I had not. Maybe it was a subconscious decision on my part as I am quite terrified of doing the camo this time.

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[stona]

There must be,the red "Hollehund" (not a griffin by the way) was an early emblem of 9./JG 26 which was one of the Luftwaffe's most famous units.The vertical bar behind the cross is for III Gruppe. At this time each Gruppe comprised of only three Staffeln so a quick bit of division will give you the ninth Staffel (9./JG 26) in the third Gruppe (III./ JG 26).

Is it supposed to be Galland's aircraft?

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Is it supposed to be Galland's aircraft?

According to the paint guide, yes. Searching for his aircraft didnt reveal anything, so I'll do another search using the above info. Give me something USAAF and I'll usually find it, but I'm clueless when it comes to Luftwaffe.

Cheers.

Chris

[stona]

Well Galland was not exactly publicity shy,though this is one of his early aircraft. There was nothing in my Galland folder,but with my filing that doesn't mean much as I did find a nice picture of Werner Moelders in there!

I've got some JG 26 books but the house is upside down due to SWMBO's latest project and my books are stacked about ten feet high. I'll bet that the Tamiya profile is based on photographic evidence.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Yes, I'm sure it must have been. I did find a couple of shots of that groups aircraft with the same colour scheme, so that will do for now. Cheers.

[Guest]

Managed to get a slightly better pic of the 109

And also (at long last) made a start on the painting for the FW 190. My first real attempt at doing German camo. I'm not particularly happy with it, but am hoping it'll look better once the decals are on.

[Guest]

Finally got the 190 finished. Only took me 3 months!

[Guest]

Not a plane man myself but that look's stunning, nice one.

[papa 695]

Both look very good well done i think the 190 as turned out very well

[Guest]

Thanks guys. It was my first time trying to do the mottle type camo with a brush, so although I'm not completely happy with it, it could have been worse. Also had trouble with the black stripe on the side. I had considered painting it, but ended up using the decal but no amount of micro sol would make it hug the detailing underneath.