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  • stona
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    • Jul 2008
    • 9889

    #16
    You should be able to get a decent mottle freehand at that scale. Thin your paint,take your time,and build it up gradually. The mottle on the actual aircraft was often very thin as if the painter just gave a quick once over. Remember you can always make adjustments by re-spraying the base colour. I almost always do this to tidy things up,it's part of the process!

    Here are two pictures.The first shows a thin random sqiggle which would be hard to replicate but the second shows how the mottling could be used simply to break up the demarcation between upper and lower colours. Much easier to do.

    Sqiggles

    And mottle

    You'd be correct about the panel lines. They were puttied and sanded. Sometimes the putty was visible because such a thin coat of laquer was applied but generally,as in those two pictures, they are indistinct.

    Cheers

    Steve

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    • stona
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      • Jul 2008
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      #17
      Found another one. Upper colours look like two greys (RLM74 and 75).

      You can just about see the demarcation of the colours. It would have followed this earlier scheme (probably)

      Again not a lot of mottle which would (again probably) be in the same two upper colours. There are many options!

      Cheers

      Steve

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      • Guest

        #18
        Thanx, I will defenately use these pix to paint the 262!

        I rather like the red engine intake covers, I wonder if they would have been installed when the plane was towed from the apron to the despersal area?

        T

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        • stona
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          • Jul 2008
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          #19
          Hi Theuns,I don't know their procedure with jet engines but that one has a tow attached so why not? it's your model,I for one think it would look very cool with the covers on.

          With piston engines at the highest state of readiness (sitzbereitschaft) they would warm the engines up and the pilot would sit in the aircraft. They could theoretically be airborne in less than a minute. I have no idea if they could have done this with jet engines.

          Cheers

          Steve

          Special bonus! cockpit piccies from the handbook.

          [ATTACH]21219.IPB[/ATTACH]

          [ATTACH]21220.IPB[/ATTACH]



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          • Guest

            #20
            I have pix of the SAAF on "cockpit standby" in the mirage F1's during the Angola bush war.During the summer ,in Africa, in full G-flight gear.Not the most plesant place to be for a few hours!

            They had 2 hangers at the end of each end of the runway so the lads did'nt even have to taxi much, just put gas and go. Also 45 sec or less.

            I am thinking that the 262 is such an expensive model that I need to practice my painting on some cheaper 1/48 German plane first.Maybe an Academy 1/48 ME 109 will give a good idea of how to paint the 262 later, also the same tipe mottle.

            T

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            • stona
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              • Jul 2008
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              #21
              Hi Theuns ,I came across this image showing the whole tow bar attached to an Me262. It would be easy to make if you wanted to include one in your diorama.

              Hope it gives you some inspiration!

              Cheers

              Steve

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              • Guest

                #22
                Hey Steve, I was at uor local IPMS thing this weekend at the war meseum in JHB.

                Check out this interesting cammo on the 2 seater 262 night fighter.

                Theuns

                [ATTACH]21314.IPB[/ATTACH]

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                • stona
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #23
                  That's nice. I think they've gone for an 80/81 or 81/82 mottle.It's hard to be certain about the late colours and either is entirely feasible. They've made a very neat job of it.I wonder how it handled with two 300 litre drop tanks attached.

                  Cheers

                  Steve

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    dont know about this colour scheme but think it shd b okay

                    [ATTACH]21324.IPB[/ATTACH]

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                    • stona
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #25
                      Hi JFJ,that profile is based on the Messerschmitt document I posted earlier. The pattern is correct and the two colours should be RLM82 (a green colour described in german documents as Hell-grun or Oliv-grun) and RLM81 (described as Dunkelbraun or Braunviolet) It is a brownish colour and certainly not the plum/purple colour on the profile. Otherwise it looks possible.

                      Cheers

                      Steve

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                      • Gern
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                        • May 2009
                        • 9214

                        #26
                        Originally posted by \
                        Hi Theuns ,I came across this image showing the whole tow bar attached to an Me262. It would be easy to make if you wanted to include one in your diorama.Hope it gives you some inspiration!

                        Cheers

                        Steve
                        I don't know how I missed this picture earlier - but I'd really hate to see that view in my rear mirror if I was flying an allied plane. That looks really sinister!

                        Gern

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          They certainly have that shark look about them, wonder if any had the teeth on like the American fighters.

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            I could also go to the other side and do the 262 in the USAF collours (post war)

                            Theuns

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                            • stona
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                              • Jul 2008
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by \
                              They certainly have that shark look about them, wonder if any had the teeth on like the American fighters.
                              The fancy art work tends to be on early war Luftwaffe aircraft. Late war aircraft rarely even feature personal or squadron emblems. Always exceptions and never rules (I've been studying the Luftwaffe long enough never to make an unequivocal statement!) but I've not seen a shark mouth Me262 which is a shame as it's crying out for one.

                              Steve

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                              • stona
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                                • Jul 2008
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                                #30
                                Whilst looking for something completely different I found a shark's mouth on a Bf110E-2 fighter bomber of II./ZG 76. Early war as it still has the white tactical markings introduced for September 1940. A few of this type of unit carried large emblems like this. The famous "Wespe" of ZG 1 and wolf's head of a unit I can't remember spring to mind.

                                Cheers

                                Steve

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