Spitfire part-works due soon.

[wonwinglo]

no i cant see it' date=' what is it?[/quote']*** See posts #10 & #12 on this thread,there are two errors Squirrel.

[Guest]

Just watched the construction Vid from the Link above, I would be very surprised if that former stuck at all as the glue was placed on the wrong edges, as stated previously...probably stick to the building board but that is about it !!!

Also I noticed that De-Agostini did put a warning on their page as follows:

* De Agostini strongly recommends that inexperienced model-plane flyers take lessons before flying their model Spitfire.

Was that there before..?? or added as an Afterthought..??

Regards..............Mark

[wonwinglo]

Watchdog not happy with Spitfire.

Monday evenings TV 'Watchdog' programme highlighted Agnostini's new part works Spitfire,above all they highlighted the 'dangers' of flying these models in parks by in-experienced beginners,not exactly the type of over top exposure that the model flying hobby needs ! it also showed an experienced flyer speaking about the irresponsible attitude of the company producing this model,highlighting what we have said here about starting with a trainer model and to get proper supervision in the process,sound words indeed.

Also part of the programme dealt with a previous electric car model that they had done over two years,a missing gearbox part in issue number 19 and a faulty electronic conponent that melted after a few minutes running time ! when approached 29 times by telephone the company promised a replacement only to issue the self same faulty part eventually,they offered no repair service or other back up with the car,disgruntled the mother of her car mad son went out and purchased a kit for a lot less than the part works.

To get national television exposure like this is bad for any company especially if promises are not fulfilled and customers are not happy,lets just hope that they will give a better service and spares back-up to those contemplating carrying on with the Spitfire model,it will need every bit of expertise to get them flying ! :thinking: oster_oo

[Guest]

Monday evenings TV 'Watchdog' programme highlighted Agnostini's new part works Spitfire,above all they highlighted the 'dangers' of flying these models in parks by in-experienced beginners,not exactly the type of over top exposure that the model flying hobby needs ! it also showed an experienced flyer speaking about the irresponsible attitude of the company producing this model,highlighting what we have said here about starting with a trainer model and to get proper supervision in the process,sound words indeed.Also part of the programme dealt with a previous electric car model that they had done over two years,a missing gearbox part in issue number 19 and a faulty electronic conponent that melted after a few minutes running time ! when approached 29 times by telephone the company promised a replacement only to issue the self same faulty part eventually,they offered no repair service or other back up with the car,disgruntled the mother of her car mad son went out and purchased a kit for a lot less than the part works.

To get national television exposure like this is bad for any company especially if promises are not fulfilled and customers are not happy,lets just hope that they will give a better service and spares back-up to those contemplating carrying on with the Spitfire model,it will need every bit of expertise to get them flying ! :thinking: oster_oo

Barry, See that you too have been watching watch dog. Dosn't say very much good for the company

:busted_re :busted_re :busted_re

[Guest]

Also saw the programme here and can only agree, does not say much for the company but nice to see that they have been exposed in the shoddy way that they work.

Regards.......Mark

[Guest]

Also saw the programme here and can only agree, does not say much for the company but nice to see that they have been exposed in the shoddy way that they work.Regards.......Mark

I Expect that they have already caught quite a few guys who think that they know it all and will suceed where sensible folk would think twice and then again :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

[Guest]

Does the BMFA and SAA not take an interest in these dubious methods of sales to the general public. If a disaster happens it will be "model aircraft" that will be blamed , not D`agsotini or any other bit part outfit. We should perhaps get their(BMFA/SAA`s) opinion.

[Guest]

Does the BMFA and SAA not take an interest in these dubious methods of sales to the general public. If a disaster happens it will be "model aircraft" that will be blamed ' date=' not D`agsotini or any other bit part outfit. We should perhaps get their(BMFA/SAA`s) opinion.[/quote']I believe that D'agostini approached the BMFA before releasing this model with a view to getting their approval, BMFA tried to explain to them that a Spitfire wasn't an appropriate choice for a beginner and refused to sanction the model, D'Agostini said they would release it anyway. Profit over common sense again. :ranting2:

[Guest]

Indeed as Paul states above, It was on the WatchDog programme that De-Agostini did approach the BMFA for them to endorse their Spitfire and the BMFA flatly refused.

WatchDog also advised people buying this model to take out appropriate Insurance. I doubt any insurer will cover any accident from a beginner flying a completely unsuitable plane....this Spitfire being such an example.

Ps... Welcome Paul, Glad you found the Forum and hope you find the answers you were looking for on Autogyro's.

Regards.......Mark.

[Guest]

I have got proof that the resistor that metls isnt faulty. If you run thecar at low speeds for long periods of time. The thing ,elts. There is a clear warning with the issue that supplies the battery and charger.It isq their own fault if they didnt read it. I know, i have got the subaru and it runs perfectly, although i am thinking of buying a new battery. If you set the gears properly the car is well capable of 45km/h. I subscribed to the spitfire back in february. so far it has been straight forward. SInce i am a newbie to flying in think i will keep the sptifre on display while i learn to fly with a trainer aircraft. Back to the subaru, it runs well although i screwed the body up. the window stickers have long narrow airbubbles in them but i dont care. The only upgrade parts supplied by deagostinithat i fitted was the suspension. The new one was adjustable. I am also interested by electronic speed controlers. But i am not sure if they would fit. If you dont know the subaru is a bycmo kit.

[Guest]

Cherrion,

In reply to your post above, I would certainly put the Spitfire on Display for a while and get your hands on a good trainer plane and learn on that until you are proficient as the Spitfire is definitely NOT a beginners plane to fly.

At least when you have a few good hours on your trainer under your belt and are proficient at flying then you can move onto the Spitfire.

Try flying the Spitfire as a first plane and it will end up exactly as you bought it....A kit of parts...and very mangled ones at that !!!.

Any idea how much the Spitfire is costing you...??? as you can build much much cheaper from Plans and learn a good deal more at the same time.

Regards.........Mark.

[Guest]

I have been building the Spitfire for many months, have recieved magazine 35 as of 3rd July 06 in Australia. In defence of the product I get great pleasure in having my eldest son age 10 assist in the construction and the discussion around flying the model. The reality is that since we started construction we have built several RC/AC ARTF's - Such as the Ultrafly , Extreme and Ultimate http://www.modelflight.com.au/ultraf...timate_arf.htm etc..

also the SkyCat and a RTF Heli (Outback rescue). Many crashes on the way but getting there. So even if the De Agostini Spit doesn't take off for several years and costs 60 x $14.95 = !!! we probably would have not got into RC Aircraft without the Magzine.

[wonwinglo]

Good for you Tillythebear,your enthusiasm has paid off,you deserve to do well with your Spitfire model,but get plenty of stick time with your other models first.

[Guest]

It would be interesting to see any pictures of the build progress that you may have.

[Guest]

I think this will link to a picture of it so far.

http://www.scale-models.co.uk/gallery/showimage.php?i=846&c=8