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  • stona
    SMF Supporters
    • Jul 2008
    • 9889

    #1

    German "kamikaze" attacks or Selbstopfer angriffe

    Prompted by the manned flying bomb thread I'll make this post in a seperate thread. I've been aware of various "sondereinsatz" or special missions for some time. Being away from my beloved books I have cribbed most of this from FalkeEins Luftwaffe blog which I can access. I remember most of the gist but would never have remembered the various units!!!!

    Tony (Yak Face) expressed surprise at the idea of german suicide attacks. I think most of us would find it rather odd as well,I know I found it hard to believe when I first heard of them. There is no doubt that some suicide attacks did take place and many more were planned but for one reason or another did not take place.

    It is well known that Sturmstaffel pilots were supposed to ram allied bombers if all else failed. This seems rarely to have happened (it's not as easy as it sounds) and they would still have a chance of survival.

    There were other programs under the heading 'Totaleinsätze'.Volunteer pilots were needed for a "Sondereinsatz" or special mission.The best known was given the cover name "Schulungslegrgang Elbe." These pilots were to fly explosive laden aircraft in ramming attacks on bombers,with a consequently lower chance of survival.Many of the pilots were inexperienced and were flying aircraft no longer classed as "Einsatzfähig" (serviceable). They would have been easy meat for the american escort fighters.

    The first "Elbe" mission was on 7 April 1945.Twenty five bombers were rammed by Elbe pilots and some forty Elbe pilots were killed. Göbbels' diary entry for this date mentions this first German Rammeinsatz. " ..The results were not what had been expected from this first experiment ".

    On 16th April '45 the Russians crossed the Oder and orders were given to destroy the bridges. In true selbstopfer or kamikaze missions an unknown number of pilots did crash their explosive laden aircraft into the bridges.

    It is difficult to imagine the mood in Germany during the final weeks of the war. Many thousands of people comitted suicide,unable to see a future without national socialism or,worse,under a communist regime.

    It's all very,very sad.

    Steve
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    #2
    There was a prog on Military History or some such a couple of months ago about a squadron of, I think' FW190s who's mission was just that, ram the bombers. Although accepted that many of these pilots would die in the attempt, they did try to bale out at the last minute or hope they were thrown free. To show it did happen, one of the pilots was interviewed who rammed at least one, could have been two, B17s and survived. In the ramming he was describing, the plan was to try to cut the B17 just behind the wing where they were weakest. If possible thy would use the prop to cut and weaken to the point of failure. In his attack, he opened the canopy and rolled over just before impact in the hope that he would fall out and that is just what happened. He parachuted down watching the B17 break up and fall. An amazing man. Sadly our V-Box went belly up this week and had to be replaced so I lost all my stuff on the hard drive so I cannot go and check my facts. Pretty sure it will come around again though.

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    • yak face
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      • Jun 2009
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      • Tony
      • Sheffield

      #3
      hi steve , the ramming attacks were also used by the russians from the mid thirties, they called them "taran". They looked on this as a quite normal thing and got quite adept at it , several pilots using the tactic a number of times sometimes even bringing the aircraft home after (although i bet the maintenance crews werent too happy!!!) This is the first time ive heard of another country actively using it , just goes to show what a brilliant resource we have in this forum , you learn something new every day !! cheers tony

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      • AlanG
        • Dec 2008
        • 6296

        #4
        Graham... i know about these Sturmbock units already but this post explains it better. Read the fifth post on this thread the link shows

        Fw 190 'Sturmbock' ? - World War II Forums

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        • stona
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2008
          • 9889

          #5
          Good link (I've got some of the books mentioned at home). It is important to reiterate,as they do in that thread, that intentional ramming of bombers by these units was very rare. As Tony says the Russians did it and most of you will be aware of the exploit of Sgt Ray Holmes who,having run out of ammunition,elected to ram a Dornier over London. The first Elbe mission in which ramming was the intended method of attacking the bomber formation was on 7th April 1945, one month before the german surrender in the west.

          cheers

          Steve

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          • Guest

            #6
            YouTube - Dogfights: Luftwaffe's Deadliest Mission part 1

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            • stona
              SMF Supporters
              • Jul 2008
              • 9889

              #7
              I have found a translation of the call for volunteers issued on 8/3/45. It was drafted by Oberst Hermann (of Wilde Sau fame) and signed by Goering. It was sent to the Kommodores of all types of fighter and fighter training units within Luftflotte Reich. The recipients were to read it to all operational pilots and those nearing the end of their training.

              More than 2000 pilots volunteered,though only around 150 ever flew ramming missions.

              It seems almost incredible today!

              Cheers

              Steve

              Edit: forgot to say that quote is from "Luftwaffe Sturmgruppen" by John Weal. It's one of the Osprey "aviation elite units" series.

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