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    #16
    Originally posted by Jakko
    I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here. Who is having posts taken down, and why?


    Same here: are you asking me if something is my web site, or that I’m behind having posts taken down? You’re not making much sense at the moment, I’m afraid :sad:
    A little bit of irony there that flies over the heads of all but the most astute. I was making light of the fact that you were such an avid supporter of ’web sellers’

    I still think that info should be free. As you rightly pointed out, it’s well over 70 years from a dead regime. You say that people have a right to sell such things as Handbücher but these sellers lock everyone out from the free sites so everyone is coerced into being a ‘captive audience’. Just my opinion but I think it’s wrong. Sorry if I caused you any offense. None intended other than a friendly jibe

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      #17
      No offense was caused, but I feel I have to point out you still seem to misunderstand what I’m saying. I’m not a supporter of people selling scans of old books at all, let alone an avid one. But I am saying that legally, they can do so if they want to. People seem to frequently misunderstand explaining rules that exist, as being in favour of effects caused by those rules. Those are two entirely different things, though, and you can do one without the other, do both, or do neither.

      And I’m still puzzled by your claims that people selling scans can deny prospective buyers from getting the same from free sites. Unless you mean by claiming copyright, so that the site owners will take down the free downloads? But that is easy enough to get around: point out that the material is out of copyright, and if the site owners don’t see the error of their ways, just upload it somewhere else. What is the scan-seller going to do? Take you to court?

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      • Guest

        #18
        Cause and effect. I hope we can drop the heavy atmosphere now. :smiling5:

        You are entirely right about the pdf seller in that they seem to have taken down the free sites or claimed copyright over them - that is what I meant by unscrupulous- not necessarily because they are selling online but the manner in which they seem to have gobbled up all the other free sites
        The guy pops up every now and then on other modelling sites, pushing his sales pitch. I don’t know what you mean by upload - Im only interested in downloading info the same as most other builders.

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        • Guest

          #19
          By upload, I mean the opposite of download For you or me to be able to download a PDF from a website, somebody has to first upload it to that website. Say I put up a PDF I’ve made of a 1940s manual up on Dropbox, and somebody who sells that same manual online then goes to Dropbox and gets them to remove my PDF on a spurious copyright claim. I would be annoyed, and if my appeal to Dropbox had no effect, I would just put the same PDF up at, say, Google Drive or iCloud Drive, or Scribd, or whatever. Preferably all of them and more.

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          • spanner570
            SMF Supporters
            • May 2009
            • 15376

            #20
            :rolling::sleeping:......!

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            • Ian M
              Administrator
              • Dec 2008
              • 18261
              • Ian
              • Falster, Denmark

              #21
              Shall we say this bear has been skinned gentlemen.
              Group builds

              Bismarck

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              • adt70hk
                SMF Supporters
                • Sep 2019
                • 10400

                #22
                Originally posted by Ian M
                Shall we say this bear has been skinned gentlemen.
                I think that's a fair assessment.

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                • spanner570
                  SMF Supporters
                  • May 2009
                  • 15376

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ian M
                  Shall we say this bear has been skinned gentlemen.
                  Yes please, Guv!

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                  • AlanG
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6296

                    #24
                    Locked

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