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[eddiesolo]

Other way around Si. Machine guns or 20mm cannon first. 30mm cannon, which had limited ammunition and was not easy to aim, second.

I stand corrected, thanks for that Steve.

Si

[Guest]

That's odd. I have just tried it and it works (for me). Ian M (Mr. Muddle) posted that he had got it

Chrome didn't link straight there either, your link for the URL is separated by hyphens ... They should be forward slashes. Most Macs can cope with this and some windows explorers can, not all though.

Here's the link as windows will recognise it

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/spit/Spit2Manual.pdf

[stona]

I stand corrected, thanks for that Steve.Si

No worries. I suspect the reality was somewhat different from the plan anyway

Some wings did persist with head on attacks, others did not. There is quite a lot of Luftwaffe gun camera footage out there showing various methods of attack on bombers. It is very difficult to see which weapons or weapon groups are being used at any one time.

There's a full 35 minute roll from the Luftwaffe gunnery school, dating from June '44, here.

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Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Thanks guys for those very interesting movies. Thank heaven I was not born a decade or two earlier. I wonder how I would have coped.

[eddiesolo]

Thanks guys for those very interesting movies. Thank heaven I was not born a decade or two earlier. I wonder how I would have coped.

Probably just like the guys that did the fighting, you would have done your duty Steve I'm sure of it.

Si

[flyjoe180]

And if the 262 is your thing (as it is mine) then this short clip at 1:23 is always worth a gander.(I get the chills when listening to the pilot and gunners on the radio)

The B-17 footage and early radio commentary is from the original wartime Memphis Belle film. The fighters attacking in the real film were fast and frightening enough, a 262 would have been terrifyingly quick.

[Guest]

I think the clip does its job for only being less than 1.5 minutes in length. I have read a lot of books and articles and have flyable models in my simulator on the 262, and I imagine things would have sounded much as they are presented here. They aren't my movies, simply ones i have stumbled across in my lust for war knowledge and I put them up here, where they would (most likely) have an appreciative crowd.

Part of me says "we should view these things and remember." Remember that they were horrible. That the war (I don't call it world war 2 any more, as much as it's world war 1, part 2.) made a lot of good people do a lot of very bad things, and we should never wish to let things get that far out of hand again.

Part of me says "wars are better left in the past because of that nastiness" It's a hard line to follow sometimes.