Help identifying a car wreck

[bilbo]

If it was a German staff car then it might have been a simca 5, I also thought it look like an early fiat

[Guest]

If there were any automobiles in that area the Germans would have confiscated the good serviceable ones when they occupied the area.

Probably, yes.

You would be surprised at not only the number of vehicles, but also the variety that existed at that time.

I wouldn’t, really

So far I have searched 200 pages looking for a match to your photo, possibly another angle shot exists that may shed some light as to what this sedan actually was

Thanks for going to all that trouble

If it was a German staff car then it might have been a simca 5, I also thought it look like an early fiat

Looking at photos of a Simca 5, it doesn’t look like one — the windows are wrong, for example. Not sure about Fiat, that may require a bit more research without easy model numbers.

[bilbo]

Jakko - Look at the Fiat 1500 - I think it looks like a fiat 1500 C, with the style of the doors in a wrecked state, and in a poor qulaity photo it might look like a 2 door vs. a 4 door.



messing around with you original photo:



Front wing, and bumper seem to match (bumber has a small vertical bar, just pass the wing), but theres no indication of the headlight on the front wing
the white dot, could be part of the door handle, rear wing doesn't appear to be 100% match,
it has the running boards...

[Mini Me]

My personal opinion is that it's a larger sedan. Looking at the thickness of the side window pillar and the bumpers, not to mention the length of the running board tells me it is not a small vehicle. Rick H.

[Tim Marlow]

Good call from Bilbo, rear door is a suicide door, so looks like a two door car....wing shape looks right and it has runners....

[bilbo]

the other option might be a Fiat 1100:




though the rear window appears a bit too short, but the wing (front & rear) shape, running boards, appear to be right.

[Mini Me]

The body lines below the window don't match up either.

[SimonT]

30's Ford maybe?

[Guest]

Thanks all, but I still don’t think they’re it. The wreck seems to have a square boot that sticks out the back, which those Fiats both lack, though otherwise they look fairly close. The Ford seems overall too robust, and the shape of the wings is wrong.

[Mini Me]

The sedan Mr.T has posted is a fast back. Ford also produced a model with a pronounced trunk or boot as you call it. What is important here, is a look at the body lines that run under the side windows and the shape and location of the pillar as well as the windows themselves. In My Humble Opinion if you find a snap of the right body style,I think you have a match.

[Tim Marlow]

It could be a German ford Eiffel or Taurus of course, variants of the 1930s ford sedans...

[Mini Me]

No running boards or matching body lines on the Eiffel.

[Guest]

if you find a snap of the right body style,I think you have a match.

That’s been my thought too, and why I think it's not a Fiat, even though the rest seems to match fairly well with them. I wish I was a car expert, then I’d have the library and background knowledge to work it out myself

[Mini Me]

I can tell you with all certainty that the Germans used full size American automobiles of all makes during the war. I have seen these posted on other forums with German number plates from all branches and the white WH on the front fender (wing) sometimes with a coat of Panzer Grey and sometimes not.

[Graeme C.]

Here's a possibility, Ford V8, made in a wide variety of body styles including this one, 1938 Standard 2 door sedan.

For discussion only.
The car in the picture is so knocked about, it's difficult to pin down really.