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  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #1

    Water effect products

    Been looking at various youtube videos and most 'tutorials' seem to either recommend resins or silicone mastik type materials. Whilst i'd love to go down the Vallejo water effects route, price has a major factor in my choice. I need as cheap as possible and has to be able to be paintable. I will need enough to cover 75cm x 65cm.

    So basically what product you guys n gals recommend and where to buy it cheaply?
  • papa 695
    Moderator
    • May 2011
    • 22770

    #2
    Clear silicone/sealent

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    • AlanG
      • Dec 2008
      • 6296

      #3
      Originally posted by papa 695
      Clear silicone/sealent
      Which brand though. Apparently some are not paintable. Been looking on Screwfix but only one was paintable and it was expensive

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      • Ian M
        Administrator
        • Dec 2008
        • 18266
        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #4
        Why use clear when you want to paint it?
        I recall Ron the Master of water scapes paints a base, then gives it glass clear silicon or loads of clear varnish. (Which can be painted).

        You can get modg podge that dries clear and shiny. That to can be coloured. I believe that Railway hobby shops are the place to hunt out.
        Group builds

        Bismarck

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        • AlanG
          • Dec 2008
          • 6296

          #5
          When i say paint it i mean like the tips of waves to make them white etc

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          • Gary MacKenzie
            SMF Supporter
            • Apr 2018
            • 1057
            • Gary
            • Forres , Moray , Scotland

            #6
            Lidl do a good clear and a white sealant, not tried painting, but the clear is good.

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            • BigGreg
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 2182

              #7
              i used a clear one and no issues to paint it.... if you want to let it clear you can paint the tip in white or use a specific product for the tips
              look at these pictures.... not mine but i did almost the same thing..
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              • AlanG
                • Dec 2008
                • 6296

                #8
                Cheers. Problem is that the Vallejo isn't the cheapest around and when you are on minimum wage it's expensive. I might look into getting some clearfix mastik. It's about £7 a tube (there are cheaper ones out there but cannot be painted).

                As you all can probably gather with my questions about diorama bases and water effects i am planning a dio (my first ever one).

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                • Jim R
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 15669
                  • Jim
                  • Shropshire

                  #9
                  Hi Alan

                  As others have mentioned cheap clear and white silicon can work well. Paint the flat base various sea colours. Cover in clear silicon and make wave shapes. Then add wave crests and wake etc with little bits of the white silicon. This is 1/700 scale USS Yorktown.

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                  • AlanG
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6296

                    #10
                    I've got some weatherboard/plywood to use as a base. It's the wood we use on the pig huts so it's defo waterproof. Because it's textured would you suggest i prime it first before trying to do the base colour for the water? I'm going to be painting a very dark blue/black

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                    • Jim R
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15669
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #11
                      Hi Alan
                      I don't think I would bother with a primer although if the wood is quite porous you may need extra colour coats.
                      Jim

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                      • Kelly McFadden
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jim R
                        Hi Alan

                        As others have mentioned cheap clear and white silicon can work well. Paint the flat base various sea colours. Cover in clear silicon and make wave shapes. Then add wave crests and wake etc with little bits of the white silicon. This is 1/700 scale USS Yorktown.

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                        Jim
                        Jim.
                        I really like the color of you water. You don’t happen to have a picture of how you painted the base before you covered it with silicon? I’d like to see how you got that grey blue color.

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                        • AlanG
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 6296

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kelly McFadden
                          Jim.
                          I really like the color of you water. You don’t happen to have a picture of how you painted the base before you covered it with silicon? I’d like to see how you got that grey blue color.
                          +1 for that :thumb2:

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                          • Jim R
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 15669
                            • Jim
                            • Shropshire

                            #14
                            Kelly and Alan
                            Piece of plywood cut to size and painted with cheap acrylic paints.
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                            • AlanG
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 6296

                              #15
                              Cheers Jim

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