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    #61
    In the end Si it matters not.

    The end result is what matters & the pleasure it gives the builder & the viewers.

    One thing I do know it is fun building them.

    Also a plus nobody knows if you have made a muck or mistake. :tears-of-joy: :rolling:

    The other is finding the room. Now have 4 sized at 2.4m* 50cm (8feet* 21").
    The room is 9feet*12 feet.

    Need room for bed. That is a diorama itself when I am in bed

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    • dalej2014
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      • Aug 2021
      • 507

      #62
      Late reply on this, and having a grand total of one dio under my belt (and that just a base really).
      I think to begin with it's all about inspiration, wherever you find it. It could be a photo, film, documentary, box art, or imagination. Sometimes the models themselves will fire an idea. Once you have that, ti's a matter of planning, whether that's in your head, or with a quick sketch. Then it's choosing materials and space, and getting underway with it.
      For my Dingo I always knew it was going in a desert setting so I built it around that idea. I think future builds will be done the same way. It makes snese to build to make your dio in parallel with the model, since the weathering will be reflected by the surroundings (as someone already rightly said).
      All of this to say, you have a perfect exscuse to watch, read and listen to as many books, films, documentaries, TV shows etc. as you like, to mine for ideas. Have fun!

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      • rtfoe
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        • Apr 2018
        • 9086

        #63
        Originally posted by Laurie
        In the end Si it matters not.

        The end result is what matters & the pleasure it gives the builder & the viewers.

        One thing I do know it is fun building them.

        Also a plus nobody knows if you have made a muck or mistake. :tears-of-joy: :rolling:

        The other is finding the room. Now have 4 sized at 2.4m* 50cm (8feet* 21").
        The room is 9feet*
        Yes it is fun and a way of extending the interest of the kit that was built and putting it in the environment it played a part in real life.

        Originally posted by dalej2014
        Late reply on this, and having a grand total of one dio under my belt (and that just a base really).
        I think to begin with it's all about inspiration, wherever you find it. It could be a photo, film, documentary, box art, or imagination. Sometimes the models themselves will fire an idea. Once you have that, ti's a matter of planning, whether that's in your head, or with a quick sketch. Then it's choosing materials and space, and getting underway with it.
        For my Dingo I always knew it was going in a desert setting so I built it around that idea. I think future builds will be done the same way. It makes snese to build to make your dio in parallel with the model, since the weathering will be reflected by the surroundings (as someone already rightly said).
        All of this to say, you have a perfect exscuse to watch, read and listen to as many books, films, documentaries, TV shows etc. as you like, to mine for ideas. Have fun!
        Parallel building is another interesting aspect to preparing for a dio. I usually leave out certain details not seen if its on a dio for ease of building especially interiors if it is obscured by a figure.

        Cheers,
        Richard.

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        • eddiesolo
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          • Jul 2013
          • 11193

          #64
          Originally posted by rtfoe
          Good replies all of you,
          Thanks for that Laurie is Si short for Simon? Oooh Lara...I've never attempted a solo female in a dio before, probably turn out like a man dressed in drag. :tears-of-joy:

          Cheers,
          Richard.
          Yep, Simon.

          Me and figures are so, so. Now, me and the wingy things...I just cannot do them, don't know why.

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          • Guest

            #65
            Originally posted by eddiesolo
            Yep, Simon.

            Me and figures are so, so. Now, me and the wingy things...I just cannot do them, don't know why.
            Yes well I do not think me & hands are into tug boats Si. I will do the wings you do the floaters. :tears-of-joy:
            I just love Helicopters but Jersey Airport 50& 60's had none land here. At least from photos
            & reports. Sad.

            Laurie

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            • eddiesolo
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              • Jul 2013
              • 11193

              #66
              Originally posted by Laurie
              In the end Si it matters not.

              The end result is what matters & the pleasure it gives the builder & the viewers.

              One thing I do know it is fun building them.

              Also a plus nobody knows if you have made a muck or mistake. :tears-of-joy: :rolling:

              The other is finding the room. Now have 4 sized at 2.4m* 50cm (8feet* 21").
              The room is 9feet*12 feet.

              Need room for bed. That is a diorama itself when I am in bed
              I agree with you but, I do think the aesthetics of a piece, if laid out correctly can really enhance the story, or the piece. Once that is achieved, like you said Laurie, it is the building and placing and get it to look right, even going back again when you have remembered something-I do this a lot. The fun factor is a lot, I find that scratch making can be great when making dio's, old sticks, dirt, seeds, bit of old cement, anything goes and as you say, make a mess of it-who cares, hide it with some paint or a bush.

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              • rtfoe
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                • Apr 2018
                • 9086

                #67
                I don't think I want to do another commissioned build. Part of fun in doing a dio is having the finished product for display and look at from time to time and this is it... I only have photos.

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                Now what do you classify this as...a vignette or a dio? I think a vignette.

                Cheers,
                Richard

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                • Guest

                  #68
                  Originally posted by eddiesolo
                  I agree with you but, I do think the aesthetics of a piece, if laid out correctly can really enhance the story, or the piece. Once that is achieved, like you said Laurie, it is the building and placing and get it to look right, even going back again when you have remembered something-I do this a lot. The fun factor is a lot, I find that scratch making can be great when making dio's, old sticks, dirt, seeds, bit of old cement, anything goes and as you say, make a mess of it-who cares, hide it with some paint or a bush.
                  Originally posted by rtfoe
                  I don't think I want to do another commissioned build. Part of fun in doing a dio is having the finished product for display and look at from time to time and this is it... I only have photos.

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                  Now what do you classify this as...a vignette or a dio? I think a vignette.

                  Cheers,
                  Richard
                  I have always called them boats Richard. :tongue-out:

                  Laurie

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                  • eddiesolo
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                    • Jul 2013
                    • 11193

                    #69
                    Originally posted by rtfoe
                    I don't think I want to do another commissioned build. Part of fun in doing a dio is having the finished product for display and look at from time to time and this is it... I only have photos.

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                    Now what do you classify this as...a vignette or a dio? I think a vignette.

                    Cheers,
                    Richard
                    Beautiful, really beautiful model and presentation. I do agree with you Richard, I would never do a commision build again, I have done two submarine wrecks (see pics). The first was going well until the guy started to moan about the price etc, that put me off. I learned and got half upfront for the second but I still felt very pressured. When younger I made things for uni-film projections but somehow, that felt different.
                    I just build for me, nobody else and, as with any model making, it should be fun-when the fun stops, take a break, box up and tinker with something else.
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                    • spanner570
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                      • May 2009
                      • 15402

                      #70
                      Great to read all the different approaches to what is the same goal.....A diorama the modeller is chuffed with.

                      I must confess to being a bit 'loose' with my method. I start off with just a vague idea of what I'm about to attempt. Make a start and then 'Things' come into my nut as I progress.

                      I rarely go for accuracy. As long as I'm happy with the dio. and enjoyed the build, then all is good.

                      Cheers.
                      Ron

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                      • Guest

                        #71
                        Originally posted by spanner570
                        Great to read all the different approaches to what is the same goal.....A diorama the modeller is chuffed with.

                        I must confess to being a bit 'loose' with my method. I start off with just a vague idea of what I'm about to attempt. Make a start and then 'Things' come into my nut as I progress.
                        Usually, my only mode of reference is Google Images.
                        I rarely go for accuracy. As long as I'm happy with the dio. and enjoyed the build, then all is good.

                        Cheers.
                        Ron
                        Ron you have summed up superbly model making. How when & what ever you like.

                        Laurie

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                        • Tarps
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 146

                          #72
                          My dioramas are all modelled around a railway theme.
                          I plan and write down what items I need to model my diorama. You need to remember we are human and sometimes our minds can run away with us which can result in your diorama changing.

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                          • Guest

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Tarps
                            You need to remember we are human and sometimes our minds can run away with us which can result in your diorama changing.
                            Yes so right never enough room Kevin.

                            Laurie

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                            • rtfoe
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 9086

                              #74
                              Originally posted by spanner570
                              Great to read all the different approaches to what is the same goal.....A diorama the modeller is chuffed with.

                              I must confess to being a bit 'loose' with my method. I start off with just a vague idea of what I'm about to attempt. Make a start and then 'Things' come into my nut as I progress.

                              I rarely go for accuracy. As long as I'm happy with the dio. and enjoyed the build, then all is good.

                              Cheers.
                              Ron
                              I too veer from historical accuracy but try to keep the painting, scale and weathering as true as possible. Too much accuracy sometimes can stall builds and if you want to rivet count, most soft skinned vehicles will crumble at a touch of your finger. Planes would have cooking foil thin skinning.

                              Cheers,
                              Richard

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                              • rtfoe
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                                • Apr 2018
                                • 9086

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Tarps
                                My dioramas are all modelled around a railway theme.
                                I plan and write down what items I need to model my diorama. You need to remember we are human and sometimes our minds can run away with us which can result in your diorama changing.
                                Oh Boy...I'm a number one culprit of changes and letting my mind wonder. :rolling::tongue-out2:

                                Cheers,
                                Richard

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