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  • Dulux
    • Jan 2022
    • 73

    #1

    Bomb crater in cobblestone

    Hi Guys,

    I’d like to create a bomb crater in my Normandy Dio. It’ll be on the cobblestone street, I was wandering if anyone could lend some advice?
    sorry, should’ve said that it’s created through Styrofoam
  • minitnkr
    Charter Rabble member
    • Apr 2018
    • 7509
    • Paul
    • Dayton, OH USA

    #2
    City, village, or country lane? How big/deep? Will infrastructure be exposed? Substructure? Surroundings? They all make a difference on scatter.

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    • Dulux
      • Jan 2022
      • 73

      #3
      Originally posted by minitnkr
      City, village, or country lane? How big/deep? Will infrastructure be exposed? Substructure? Surroundings? They all make a difference on scatter.
      It’ll be a village so see attached (1/35)
      Attached Files

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      • Dulux
        • Jan 2022
        • 73

        #4
        Crater doesn’t need to be all consuming but just a “Acknowledgement“ that a artillery barrage has taken place

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        • spanner570
          SMF Supporters
          • May 2009
          • 15377

          #5
          Steven, I think it would be very difficult to model an 'Acknowledgement' of an artillery barrage. Even the smallest of craters would produce a mass of flying debris. The 'cobble stones' would be smashed and flung far and wide. Most of the window glass will be gone.

          Perhaps start by digging your hole. Then make enough individual stones which would normally be in place. Break these up. This will at least give you a start as to the correct amount of general rubble.
          Try and get the effect of such an explosion in your mind's eye and start to transfer this to your model. Plenty of scope for sure.....

          Ron

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          • AlanG
            • Dec 2008
            • 6296

            #6
            I would check out Youtube videos to see how others have done it too. Lots on there to choose from. Some look really good

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            • Airborne01
              • Mar 2021
              • 3939
              • Steve
              • Essex

              #7
              Have you considered looking at actual WW2 photos or more recent conflicts such as Kosova, Lebanon etc, etc? There are often newsreel pictures recording the devastation. Also, don't forget the substrates - road construction is layered, crosses small areas of contrasting soils and contains 'services' such as drainage, main sewerage, electric and gas piping etc, etc! An extra thought, debris does not not generally fall uniformly around the crater but rather is 'splashed' in the opposing direction to the incoming projectile!
              Steve

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              • JR
                • May 2015
                • 18273

                #8
                Originally posted by spanner570
                Steven, I think it would be very difficult to model an 'Acknowledgement' of an artillery barrage. Even the smallest of craters would produce a mass of flying debris. The 'cobble stones' would be smashed and flung far and wide. Most of the window glass will be gone.

                Perhaps start by digging your hole. Then make enough individual stones which would normally be in place. Break these up. This will at least give you a start as to the correct amount of general rubble.
                Try and get the effect of such an explosion in your mind's eye and start to transfer this to your model. Plenty of scope for sure.....

                Ron
                Excuse us Steven .while I reply to 570.

                Agree completely my learned friend , so nothing to add .

                453.

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                • Dulux
                  • Jan 2022
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Originally posted by spanner570
                  Steven, I think it would be very difficult to model an 'Acknowledgement' of an artillery barrage. Even the smallest of craters would produce a mass of flying debris. The 'cobble stones' would be smashed and flung far and wide. Most of the window glass will be gone.

                  Perhaps start by digging your hole. Then make enough individual stones which would normally be in place. Break these up. This will at least give you a start as to the correct amount of general rubble.
                  Try and get the effect of such an explosion in your mind's eye and start to transfer this to your model. Plenty of scope for sure.....
                  My apologies but I

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                  • Dulux
                    • Jan 2022
                    • 73

                    #10
                    Thankyou to all that have replied.

                    I agree with your thoughts Ron, it may be a step too far for someone who is creating their first Dio. Perhaps I’d be better trying to replicate severe wear on the street. Certainly damage from the Tiger that will eventually adorn the street in question

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                    • Dulux
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 73

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Airborne01
                      Have you considered looking at actual WW2 photos or more recent conflicts such as Kosova, Lebanon etc, etc? There are often newsreel pictures recording the devastation. Also, don't forget the substrates - road construction is layered, crosses small areas of contrasting soils and contains 'services' such as drainage, main sewerage, electric and gas piping etc, etc! An extra thought, debris does not not generally fall uniformly around the crater but rather is 'splashed' in the opposing direction to the incoming projectile!
                      Steve
                      Hi Steve,

                      Great name and spelt properly as well

                      I have looked at photos and YouTube but it’s quite vague. As this is my first Dio I may have to reign in my initial thoughts. One step at a time

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                      • Tim Marlow
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18882
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #12
                        You could always make a test piece Steve. That way you get to play with ideas without ditressi the main dio?

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                        • Dulux
                          • Jan 2022
                          • 73

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          You could always make a test piece Steve. That way you get to play with ideas without ditressi the main dio?
                          Tim,
                          Doh!! Of course, didn’t think of that

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18882
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #14
                            No probs Steve. If it was mine I probably wouldn’t think of it either

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                            • Gary MacKenzie
                              SMF Supporter
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1057
                              • Gary
                              • Forres , Moray , Scotland

                              #15
                              Crater Prints From Memory Lane Prints . Wall Art Prints & Posters


                              Unless it's something like a mortar shell I can't see the hole being very small.

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