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**Guest** · 12 February 2010, 23:34

That's a very nice P-4 scott, how did you do the zimm? It looks very realistic, just how I imagine it was done in the factory, kinda 'slopped' on!

And your house looks excellent, I really ought to put mine together!

Patrick

**Centurion3RTR** · 13 February 2010, 00:12

Very nice Scott, what's Miniart buildings like to make and is this vac formed? Panzer looks good too, you've done a good job on the Zimmerit.

Can't wait to see the dio mate, John

**yak face** · 13 February 2010, 05:58

hi scott , fantastic looking crinkle cut tank ! Seriously mate this is a great job,brilliant zimm effect and the weathering on your building is just outstanding ,loving the dirty water marks on the rendered wall. looking forward to seeing the dio. cheers tony

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 06:22

Alright Scott

Can't fault your work mate. I love the tank with the weathering spot on. How long did it take to do the Zimm? I know that Tamiya has their own little tool for this; either that or a screwdriver. whatever you used it looks great.

I didn't know Miniart was Ukrainian??? Your job on that house is perfect - the right contrast of colours and it shows your professionalism as a modeller for getting it right ie not going overboard. I've got a miniart house too, well, i've had it for 9 months - they take up some space i guess

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Great job mate!!

Paul

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 10:13

Thanks a lot for the comments guys, the miniart building is vac formed and can be kind of tricky and can sometimes need a little filling if you cut them out wrong but the detail on them is fantastic, as for the zimmeritt i kinda cheated there i already had a tamiya specific zimmeritt kit that i bought from either modelsforsale or creative models so it really just needed to be glued into place.

scott

**spanner570** · 13 February 2010, 11:13

Only just catching up on the threads.

Very nice work Scott and I look forward to seeing the 2 elements incorporated into a diorama ( Unfortunately no Palm trees this time mate)

Patrick, people will have different takes on this, but I put the zimmerit on thus-

Using Humbrol model filler and a small piece of plastic or one of those wooden sticks used for swilling McDonald's coffee around put a thin layer on the model about the size of your thumb nail ( no more or it will set before you have done the prodding) then with a 1-2mm precision screw driver blade dipped in water to prevent sticking, push into the filler in vertical lines. Leave a slight gap and repeat the process. This gives you the vertical lines. It is time consuming, but good fun and you don't have to be too fussy!

Sorry for going off your models thread a bit Scott...

Ron

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 13:34

cheers ron and i will have to get me another bucket for the next dio.

scott

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 15:23

Just read something interesting that Zimmerit was discontinued in late 1944 and the British actually tried it out on a Churchill

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 17:10

Yeah they stopped with Zimm after fears of it catching fire-it was made mainly of sawdust so maybe they had a point! A slightly interesting fact is that many people think that the Schurzen & Thoma shields were to defend against hollow-charge weapons like PIAT's & Bazooka's but they were actually added to stop Russian anti-tank rifle shots.

I wouldn't have the patience for applying it like that Ron, I'd go down Scott's route or buy a Dragon kit with the Zimm moulded-on. But I have to say that for an after-market add-on, it's very good & doesn't look too 'regular', instead having that rough look. Must buy a P4 soon.....

Patrick

**Guest** · 13 February 2010, 19:18

It has all been said, I must stop building models and keep up with the forum lol. Seriously though, the painting of both these is spot on. I have never really understood Zimmerit, I always thought it was like cement to stop magnetic charges! Once again, has been an educational thread. Have to say though that the building stands out, it looks very realistic. Great work.

**Guest** · 15 February 2010, 13:52

FanTasTic Work i can only agree with every other post, what else can i say...:cool2:

**Guest** · 16 February 2010, 06:08

Hi scottiedog if you like this check out the After Gazala diorama on this page and tell me what you think.

scott

**spanner570** · 16 February 2010, 09:20

Originally posted by \

It has all been said, I must stop building models and keep up with the forum lol. Seriously though, the painting of both these is spot on. I have never really understood Zimmerit, I always thought it was like cement to stop magnetic charges! Once again, has been an educational thread. Have to say though that the building stands out, it looks very realistic. Great work.

Graham, just to confirm what I already knew, I have checked on 'tinternet and you are right . The coating was also used to stop the perceived threat from the adhesion of anti tank mines. It was made up thus-

40% Barium Sulphate

25% PVA

15% Ochre Pigment

10% Zinc Sulphide

only 10% was saw dust.

It was not anti magnetic, just non magnetic.

In Sept.1944 the stuff was banned from use due to fear of fire, but in tests this was unproven but it was never used again.

Depending on the vehicle there were over 12 different patterns used.

Patrick was refering to the Schurzen shields fixed to the sides of armour when he mentioned anti tank rifle rounds, not so much zimmerit...............I think!!

Sorry for stretching your thread Scott!

Ron

**Guest** · 16 February 2010, 09:37

At last I know what Zimmermit is ! I didnt want to ask :-)

Super work

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Panzer IV and Ruined building photos.

Panzer IV and Ruined building photos.

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