Trumpeter .Ch tz s65 Tractor Diorama

[minitnkr]

Sounds like a future wreck to delight us as all poorly designed models should. Move on to something fun. You love gardening/mud. PaulE

[Jim R]

Hi John
There are times when it is best to start anew - and this is one of them. On with a tank.
Jim

[Steve Jones]

:sleeping2::crying: Sorry mate. Bring on the tank:thumb2:

[scottie3158]

John,
A bummer on the chassis one tip if I may is with prop shafts cut them in half where the smaller diameter meets the larger diameter then drill the larger out to allow some plastic rod to move up and down in it. this allows you to adjust the length to fit the gap I have done this on a couple of builds. Great work on the woodwork.

[Marty]

John....the hobbyboss trucks can be a bit of a bugger coz of all the tiny bitz so the guys are right...try something like the tamiya bt7...quick search found this pic...
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Ok its Finnish, but the idea is there...similar tractor and towing capicity etc so no reason why not in 4BO???..onwards and upwards
Cheers...Marty

[JR]

Good evening all and firstly thank you for the support.
Ron .....I walked round the garden , had a cool drink and consulted the Management. Christine said , " Well it just wasn't ment to be , start on another kit instead " So I have .
Tim....... Thanks mate,. but to be fair to Hobby Boss maybe it's just to fiddly for me. The instructions were written by an ex Dragon employee I think, some things were shown upside down, then would be the other way up on the same page !
All very confusing.
Peter........ Cheers, you know only to well the feeling when you realise you can't make anything of it .Found a T40 light tank, only to see it's made by Hobby Boss again, hope this is not going to be my MiniArt !
Paul ......... Yes it safely back in the box, as you said just waiting for an appearance as a wreak. Best thing to do at a time like this.
Jim......... Thanks, and correct on that !
Steve...... Feel cross that it beat me, I sat there looking at the mess of plastic after it broke and thought that's it, now time to change the statement under my name !
Paul .... That's a handy tip, if I ever build a truck again please remind me ! The wooden part was the best thing of the build along with the engine , thank you for commenting on that.
Marty .......Nice to see you, yes I could have used that as it's in the stash. The S65 was able to tow the largest of Russian artillery with out any problem . I have a photo of the S65 towing 3 fully laden trailers through thick mud , and another of one towing 3 limbers and 3 guns . The choice was large , but as the T 40 looked good I went with that .
Tonight I started on the hull, about the 8 part was a long length of PE, one eack side under the fender along with another section PE that needed bending. . Well you can image the language, ************. ************* :worried: Out with the "Small shop jig thing and 10 minutes later two brass rear mudguards . Having managed this I cracked on. Top rollers fitted , one side of suspension arms on .
Much better end to the proceedings, after all it's ment to be fun !
Thank for giving me a lift !
John .

[Mickc1440]

Great work there John, I like option B with a group of muddy people too.

[JR]

Thanks Mick.
There will be plenty of mud, and deep too, it's got individual plastic tracks !
John

[Dave Ward]

John,
it happens! I've got lots of models part built in boxes, all having reached exasperation and frustration levels that were damaging my health! I keep on thinking that one day I'll have another go, but that day rarely comes!
Back into the saddle as fast as possible - with a nice relaxing build....................
Dave

[Si Benson]

Morning John,
Sounds like that truck tested your patience with it’s dodgy instructions....shame because I had put this on my birthday wish list :sad:.....Oh well...it is what it is, move along, nothing to see here!

Hopefully a simpler tank build will fit the bill for you....fingers crossed mate
Si

[BigGreg]

.. I'm getting super curious to see where all this is going... i voted for the tank... but truck it is... go for it John

[JR]

Dave......Reading what you said has made me feel a lot better, like many I just hate the idea of not being able to do it.
Si............ Worry not mate, you would lick it into shape, it's me, but kind of you to say. More like a dodgy modeler. :upside:
Greg.......No mate,,, the truck is dead long live the Tank.

Right good afternoon.
A brief history of the T40


I think I said T70 Earlier, just shows how things get to you. ITS A T 40 S .


The T40 started life as an amphibious light scout tank used by the Russians during WW2. It was armed with one 12.7 mm (0.5 in) DShK machine gun and a 7. 62 machine gun.. It was one of the few tanks that could ford a river without a bridge.

It was primarily intended to equip reconnaissance units. A land-based version of the T-40, the T-40S, was produced, although was later redesignated the T-60. The T-60 was cheaper, simpler, better-armed, and could fulfill most of the same roles, so T-40 production was halted.

The vehicle served mainly in Barbarossa and in the defence of Moscow, and it was rarely seen after that point, although it was used in Soviet training schools until 1946. A total 44 examples of the type were later fitted with Katyuska rocket launchers, firing 82 mm unguided rockets from a 24-rail launcher. The Katyuska Rocket version would be great to build, but don't think anyone produces it, a scratch build maybe :surprised:

Engine wise it was powered by the Gaz 202.... 12 hp power engine
Coming into service in 1941 until 1946. with a total of 222 being built, I have read else where that a total of 663 were built , so you can't take every figure to be true . Post June 1941 saw the removal of the propeller and the S added to its description .

It's weight a mere 5.9 tons was no match for the S65 for recovery purposes.
Crewed by two, the commander was quite busy , directing the driver, loading and aiming the 12.7 MM DShK Machine gun and firing the 7.62 machine gun.

The tank was no match for German Armour and many were lost in the Barbarossa Campaign.

A good start was made yesterday with work started on the hull, bits of PE for the fenders were fun rather than a fear.
Where I do need some advice is the position of the wheel supports.In most kits I have built the placement hole has one side rounded to give a correct alignment, here you are just given a square, so slight confusion as to how low they should be.

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I've removed them once and put them back in what I think will be roughly the correct position .
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You can see what I mean from the drawing unless I just don't read it right.
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These 2 section of PE were not bad, I even managed to get them to fir well , underneath the track cover is a PE strip, how many people are going to look underneath there ?

Decided to do the tracks next, :sad::nerd::upside: all separate, oh what fun. I have a jig that might help.
Not going to rush, but have a good look and a few dry runs.

If anyone can advise on those arms I'd be grateful.

Thanks for looking in, I can always enlighten anyone's bad day with my tales from the bench:flushed:

John .

[Fernando N]

Sorry to read that the truck didn't work out John...
The woodwork looked great, maybe a wrecked vehicle in a future dio?

Thanks for the info on the T-40, would be interesting indeed to see one of those with a Katyuska on top.:surprised:
Seems to be a nice and simple kit, re the suspension arms maybe you can fit them when most of the tank is complete, so you have a better comparison with a photo or the boxart???
Maybe these are of any help: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall...phibious-tank/

[Dave Ward]

The Russian light tanks never seemed to be liked, but they made loads almost to the end of the war - I made one of the T-40 successors, the T-80 by MiniArt, a year or so ago[ATTACH]307700[/ATTACH]
Like most MiniArt models, loads of fiddly, brittle bits - and individual track links as well!
Dave

[Tim Marlow]

Hi John
What des the peg on the suspension arm look like? If it’s square there seems to be only one orientation that will look right. If it’s not square, then I’m confused as well....your photo of them protruding below the hull looks correct by the way...