BMP -2 In Aleppo - Buildings construction

[JR]

Strange to see someone in the Lebanon actually making scale modelling parts, good for them.
Some interesting posters there to add some detail and colour .
John .

[Steven]

Strange to see someone in the Lebanon actually making scale modelling parts, good for them.
Some interesting posters there to add some detail and colour .
John .

Well, maybe not IPMS shows are gaining in attendance in the Region and the standard is fairly high (I hold an MA in Middle Eastern history so everything ME interest me and especially when it concerns the hobby :smiling2

Building a counter
I digress, a humble attempt at a counter for the convenience store (small building) top and part of the front will be shattered glass (object glass - nasty stuff - not looking forward to that)
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Barricading the windows - done - and a faithful decision..

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I have had a good hard look at the inscribed brickwork and it simply does not pass muster - grout lines are far from straight in certain places and it will show up in the finished version, so the facade will be rendered - a lot of wasted work - but hey, a lesson learned i guess :sad-face:

thanks for looking in

[BigGreg]

WOW....that is really getting super interesting.... more more MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRREE:smiling::smiling::smiling2:: smiling6::smiling6::smiling6:

[JR]

Steven.
Hi , hope you show some of the brick work by not covering it all up ! .
What are you going to use for the glass, I use plastic from food packaging . Cut in one direction, collecting it up and then placing with a thin PVA mix .
John .

[BigGreg]

personally for glasses i use real glasses...and you can easily find them and break them to have a super realistic effect.
The glasses i use are the one used for microscopes.. 0.14mm thickness (cover slips for microscope slides)
the only difficult part is to manipulate them and cut them .... for the rest they are really fantastic and super realistic... :smiling2::smiling6:

[spanner570]

I have had a good hard look at the inscribed brickwork and it simply does not pass muster - grout lines are far from straight in certain places and it will show up in the finished version, so the facade will be rendered - a lot of wasted work - but hey, a lesson learned i guess :sad-face:

thanks for looking in

Steven, before you do hide the brick/blockwork take a look at some of the workmanship over in the M.E. (Up, down, in and out) I wouldn't worry one jot about your scribing! You might even loose a bit of 'Authenticity' if you rendered it.....
Just a thought.

Also, the picture you've posted of the mass of small rebars hanging down. They are not part of the main structure work as such. What you see is a steel rod 'matting' layed across the main structure. Concrete is then poured onto this to provide a flat, fairly thin concrete layer (Similar in principal to modern pre-cast Bison Beams), so I would suggest just a line of thick bars protruding out would suffice.

Ron

[Steven]

Steven.
Hi , hope you show some of the brick work by not covering it all up ! .
What are you going to use for the glass, I use plastic from food packaging . Cut in one direction, collecting it up and then placing with a thin PVA mix .
John .

Hi John -thanks for the comments I do plan to have some of the good parts exposed:hungry: , In terms of glass, I use the same as Greg

[Steven]

Steven, before you do hide the brick/blockwork take a look at some of the workmanship over in the M.E. (Up, down, in and out) I wouldn't worry one jot about your scribing! You might even loose a bit of 'Authenticity' if you rendered it.....
Just a thought.

Also, the picture you've posted of the mass of small rebars hanging down. They are not part of the main structure work as such. What you see is a steel rod 'matting' layed across the main structure. Concrete is then poured onto this to provide a flat, fairly thin concrete layer (Similar in principal to modern pre-cast Bison Beams), so I would suggest just a line of thick bars protruding out would suffice.

Ron

Hi Ron thanks for the comment, I did have a passing thought of chalking my mistakes up to "sloppy workmanship", but there are just some that are so horrendous so as not to be accepted, even by ME standards....
In terms of crossing rebars "grid" I was planning to use it in the floor sections of the large building - would that be wrong in your opinion?

[spanner570]

Hi Ron
In terms of crossing rebars "grid" I was planning to use it in the floor sections of the large building - would that be wrong in your opinion?

It would be fine. I just thought to save you having to use so many bars, you could just show the exposed reinforcing to the main structure and not use the 'Close up' ones as in that picture.

It'll look great whatever you decide to use.

Top detailing.... :thumb2:

Ron

[Steven]

Cheers mate

[Steven]

Rendering under way but still very WIP - tinted pollyfilla - dries a bit lighter than I liked


Wet - looks fine




Dried - before sanding


Sanded - lightend the tone even further - might need another coat in places - I have left blemishes, mistakes etc. in certain palces to give the look of a neglected building having to suffer the utter destruction of urban warfare....



I thought of painting the panels in a faded pastel colour to break the monochrome look


Before rendering I painted the foam with a mixture of plaster , water and PVA glue to seal it then painted it with Vallejo Surface primer - "Sinai Sand" a colour close to the rendering in case there are spots i can't reach with the rendering - I suspect areas around the AC units will be hard - I hop they won't show up too much.

Other balcony with the primer applied before rendering - I might have gone overboard with the rebars... - the way I see it is that the flooring of the balcony is formed by sections f the floor sections of the building perturding out beyond the walls f the building and would be reinforced.




That's it for now - my son needs his dieper changed...

[scottie3158]

looking good mate.

[JR]

Looks good to me Steven, you could darken that part you think dried too light, but in anycase there are no hard and fast rules to the colours that you have picked .
Agree with your thought on a differing colour to the screen blocks, that will break up that single colour.Suppose concrete is rather like working with shades of white but in light grey and browns .
That rebar is great, esp how there is some " concrete " stuck to several of the bars.
Keep it up
John

[Steven]

Thanks gents - John, these are all very good ideas I should have followed - did I - Nooooo , instead I chose to f*** everything up:

Que somber lone violin - intro

The great facade F''' Up:

I was pretty happy with the Polly Filla rendering, bar the fact that it felt very porous and fragile when dried This could prob be sorted by adding a second coating and sealing with a clear coat. Now, did I chose to do so using the well - known materials at a hand, which had produced satisfactory results the first time around? Noooo, not me - I just HAD to use an new material - a ready mixed filler which had a slightly foamy texture - liked whipped cream -and which , surprise surprise kept that appearance when dried. The result was that of a slightly dusty layer cake... - I shall spare you the horror visually, and post a pic of the facade, as it stands now stripped of all the offending material:





I will be re coating with pollyfilla - some of the original coating still remains but I will cover everything - twice - and then seal it - I guess you live and learn.....

[Steven]

and yup, you guessed it - balconies too......I am nothing if not consistent in my f*** up