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  • JR
    • May 2015
    • 18273

    #61
    Originally posted by spanner570
    Interesting experiment 453.

    last time I mixed summat I blew my eye brows off!
    Thank you 570, I had thought what happens if ! But it didn't. Trousers still intact and all hair !
    As of 1900 tonight it was unchanged in touch, might make another test piece tomorrow with less thinners in to see how that goes .:hungry:
    453

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #62
      Originally posted by scottie3158
      John,
      That really is the dogs dangly bits. The ground work with the eroded river bank is excellent and the planting is superb.
      Thanks Paul, went back later and did a coat of paint in the river , also painted some flowers on one shrub while doing the tests .Will post the photo tomorrow .
      John .

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      • Steve Jones
        • Apr 2018
        • 6615

        #63
        Very impressive mate. Looking forward to seeing the update photos tomorrow

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        • SimonT
          • Apr 2018
          • 2824

          #64
          John, the PI&S water is much better than the Vallejo.

          It sets over night and is some kind of cold cure two part silicone rubber so you get a nice solid rubber lump

          Doesn't appear to be much if any shrinkage

          Can be tinted with pigments

          Downside is that when in liquid form it travels by capillary action so it can creep away from where you wanted it

          According to PI&S this can be avoided by leaving it in the mixing pot for a while so it starts to thicken before pouring out on your base

          It may be possible to create small waves once it reaches this stage but I haven't tried it yet

          The silicone filler no doubt works out much better value and Ron gets great results with the stuff

          Your experiments look promising

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          • JR
            • May 2015
            • 18273

            #65
            Originally posted by SimonT
            John, the PI&S water is much better than the Vallejo.

            It sets over night and is some kind of cold cure two part silicone rubber so you get a nice solid rubber lump

            Doesn't appear to be much if any shrinkage

            Can be tinted with pigments

            Downside is that when in liquid form it travels by capillary action so it can creep away from where you wanted it

            According to PI&S this can be avoided by leaving it in the mixing pot for a while so it starts to thicken before pouring out on your base

            It may be possible to create small waves once it reaches this stage but I haven't tried it yet

            The silicone filler no doubt works out much better value and Ron gets great results with the stuff

            Your experiments look promising
            Morning Simon.

            Not had a look yet, seem to remember the adhesive did take some time to dry .Might put them in the sun !

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            • Jim R
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              • Apr 2018
              • 15687
              • Jim
              • Shropshire

              #66
              Hi John
              Great looking groundwork. Keep up the good work.
              Love the water experiments.
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              • Neil Merryweather
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                • Dec 2018
                • 5185
                • London

                #67
                Very interesting, John. I never thought to really try and thin the stuff I used on my Higgins boat. Seems like you are using a similar kind of product. I'll have to check that out myself. But I haven't got another floaty thing to do yet.
                Good luck with it
                Neil

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Jim R
                  Hi John
                  Great looking groundwork. Keep up the good work.
                  Love the water experiments.
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                  Jim
                  Thanks Jim :flushed::nerd::smiling3::smiling3: Yes that's me .:thumb2:
                  John.

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                  • JR
                    • May 2015
                    • 18273

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                    Very interesting, John. I never thought to really try and thin the stuff I used on my Higgins boat. Seems like you are using a similar kind of product. I'll have to check that out myself. But I haven't got another floaty thing to do yet.
                    Good luck with it
                    Neil
                    Neil, thanks for commenting, I only decided to thin after see the guy on U tube, so can't take any credit. Seems to have worked .
                    John .


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                    Water test part 3.

                    Good results to post.

                    I took the first 2 out side having been successful in lifting the mix from the lids and left them in the sun to fully dry.
                    Back at the bench I decided to attempt another mix. this time I measured out 120 mm then added 20 drops of thinner and mixed well.
                    No colour added and also placed in the sun.

                    By the afternoon the first 2 were still flexible but fully dry, while the 3 rd was dry on the outer face, but not removable .
                    This evening when I took the photo of the 3 rd it lifted , but was still sticky in the center.
                    Also no effect on the foam base material, had this been eaten that would have been the end !

                    Ist the one with slight oil colour.

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                    The one with both the oil and Vallejo.

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                    Nice peaks but I think far too dark.

                    The foam.

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                    I didn't put it all over , but in one corner ( the top ) no after effects at-all


                    Now todays test .

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                    Just starting to lift.

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                    Pleasing results, think a little colour maybe required , not think there would be much if any wave like at sea.
                    More a slight undulation of water and some ripples.

                    To finish off I added some colour yesterday the the bank, one plant with some flowers, and a smaller log.
                    2nd photo shows the T38 in a test for depth .

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                    Any comments and suggestions on the mixes would be helpful.
                    Thanks John .

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                    • spanner570
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                      • May 2009
                      • 15391

                      #70
                      Can't help with the mixes 453, but I do approve of the experiments and of course the result.

                      I like.......:thumb2:

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                      • Mini Me
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                        • Jun 2018
                        • 10711

                        #71
                        Verrrrrrrrrrry interesting !:thumb2:

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                        • Neil Merryweather
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                          • Dec 2018
                          • 5185
                          • London

                          #72
                          Hi John,
                          I'm thinking that if this is a river there would be no waves other than the bow wave and wake of the tank. Maybe it's time for an experiment with a smooth surface to see how easy that is to achieve?and perhaps over a surface that is painted the same as your river bed?
                          Looking great John
                          Neil

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                          • JR
                            • May 2015
                            • 18273

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Mini Me
                            Verrrrrrrrrrry interesting !:thumb2:
                            Cheers Rick :smiling2:

                            Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                            Hi John,
                            I'm thinking that if this is a river there would be no waves other than the bow wave and wake of the tank. Maybe it's time for an experiment with a smooth surface to see how easy that is to achieve?and perhaps over a surface that is painted the same as your river bed?
                            Looking great John
                            Neil
                            Morning Neil.

                            Thanks , yes my thoughts as well .
                            In the past when I used a gross acrylic varnish for the water, brushed over the colour painted on the base it seemed ok, I attempted to add ripples and movement with the addition of W/N Gloss Gel .Dabbing this onto the dried varnish surface.
                            As in the photo.

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                            It was ok for a start into water, but don't want to go down the resin route, so might try to add some of the gel to the test pieces.
                            Will try now and come back later.

                            John.

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                            • Si Benson
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 3572

                              #74
                              Morning Professor Race,
                              Looks like your experiments are producing some interesting results!
                              Hope that whatever result you go with doesn’t spoil the excellent base:surprised:

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                              • Guest

                                #75
                                Great looking base so far John.

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