Scale Model Shop

Collapse

Found. Flt. Sgt. Dennis Copping's missing WW2 P-40 aircraft. - Egypt 2012

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • spanner570
    SMF Supporters
    • May 2009
    • 15428

    #1

    Found. Flt. Sgt. Dennis Copping's missing WW2 P-40 aircraft. - Egypt 2012

    I need a break from Yom Kippur!

    I've been fascinated by the story of Copping and his aircraft for ages, so now I've decided to have a go at re-creating the final resting place of his P-40, which was found by Polish oil workers in 2012, some 70 years after it's disappearance.

    I have a very basic 1/48 Hobby-Craft P-40. Just as well it's basic, as I'll not be using much of it anyway!

    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260281.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	3.6 KB
ID:	1123127

    Yesterday, I glued together what I needed, brush painted the RAF Desert camouflage and added some 1/72 decals, which are a tad small, but as they will be virtually sun bleached into near none existence they will be fine. I certainly wasn't going to the expense of a complete set of correct 1/48 ones.

    The simple base, which I made last night, consists of three small bits of sheet polystyrene stuck together and coated with some more sweepings from my now extremely shiny drive!

    I've made a start on the butchery of the aircraft. The prop etc. was ripped off in the forced landing, so I've made a start in that area.

    The fabric control surfaces have long since rotted away, so thus far, I've removed the rudder and elevators. These I will re-make showing just the metal framework - I hope!

    Anyway, here is Copping's P-40 thus far. It is just placed to get a rough idea as to it's final position.

    Obviously loads more wrecking and painting to do, but it's a start.
    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260277.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	2.3 KB
ID:	1123128


    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260278.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	2.5 KB
ID:	1123129


    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260279.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	2.5 KB
ID:	1123130


    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260280.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	4.1 KB
ID:	1123131


    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260282.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	3.0 KB
ID:	1123132

    Cheers all and thanks for looking.

    Ron
  • adt70hk
    SMF Supporters
    • Sep 2019
    • 10419

    #2
    Interesting idea Ron. Not heard of this one. will be following along.

    ATB

    Andrew

    Comment

    • Tim Marlow
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 18926
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #3
      Nice idea. I’m sure you’ll do a better job on this than the museum in which it currently resides.....

      Comment

      • spanner570
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2009
        • 15428

        #4
        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
        Nice idea. I’m sure you’ll do a better job on this than the museum in which it currently resides.....

        I saw the mess they'd made of the aircraft painting some time ago.

        My dog could do a better, and more accurate job!

        Comment

        • minitnkr
          Charter Rabble member
          • Apr 2018
          • 7549
          • Paul
          • Dayton, OH USA

          #5
          Cool. Sweepings & camo came out well. PaulE

          Comment

          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18926
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #6
            So could mine Ron, and I haven’t even got a dog....l

            Comment

            • Guest

              #7
              Nice one Ron :smiling3:.

              Comment

              • stona
                • Jul 2008
                • 9889

                #8
                Great subject!

                I remember the wreck had been partially sand blasted to bare metal, and of course all the fabric was gone. I'll definitely be watching this one.

                Didn't we swop a Spitfire for it, but get nothing due to the confusion of the so called 'Arab Spring'?

                Cheers

                Al-Maqrizi (historian dec.)

                Comment

                • scottie3158
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 14214
                  • Paul
                  • Holbeach

                  #9
                  Ron,
                  Count me in for this.

                  Comment

                  • spanner570
                    SMF Supporters
                    • May 2009
                    • 15428

                    #10
                    Glad to have you chaps along for yet another trip into the unknown....

                    Question if I may. I know the rudder and elevators were part fabric on the P-40, hence my chopping them off the model, but were the ailerons all fabric, all metal or what?

                    I've been concentrating on dulling down the decals. I've used wash after wash of Vallejo Model Air 'Desert Sand' until I was happy.

                    With me painting out in the sun, the paint dried almost instantly, so I was able to apply multiple coats in quick succession.

                    I might yet go over the camo. again, just to bring it back up a bit.

                    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260283.JPG
Views:	0
Size:	2.8 KB
ID:	1123152

                    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260284 (3).JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.0 KB
ID:	1123153

                    Click image for larger version

Name:	P1260285.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.5 KB
ID:	1123154

                    ...and, yes that is the colour of the sky here. A lovely deep cobalt blue. Quite uncanny.

                    Cheers.
                    EL-AL Murray (Pub Landlord Ret.)

                    Comment

                    • Jim R
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15733
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #11
                      Hi Ron
                      Great start, great idea. I have just read up on this and it says that a 'shelter' had been erected from a parachute so the pilot survived but no body was found.
                      Jim

                      Comment

                      • prichrd1
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 692
                        • Paul
                        • Conwy

                        #12
                        Great start Ron, base looks great, typical "desert".
                        Plane is great - looks a little battered, but as Steve says above -
                        you need to do a bit of sand blasting!!

                        Originally posted by spanner570
                        .and, yes that is the colour of the sky here. A lovely deep cobalt blue. Quite uncanny
                        Ours is exactly the same - not even any "whispy" clouds floating by.
                        What makes it even more strange is - no vapor trails either!! :smiling2:

                        Paul.
                        :smiling2:

                        Comment

                        • spanner570
                          SMF Supporters
                          • May 2009
                          • 15428

                          #13
                          Hi Paul.
                          Sand blasting to follow once I'm happy with all the scrap metal that will be on and around the aircraft, and generally kicked the s*** out of the airframe!

                          Belay my question folks. I've found a working drawing which shows the ailerons were metal skinned....Phew!

                          ...and yes, it was a beautiful sky. All pale now, but still warm. Have you any wayward goats in Conwy similar to those in Llandudno?

                          Ron

                          Comment

                          • stona
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 9889

                            #14
                            Originally posted by spanner570

                            Question if I may. I know the rudder and elevators were part fabric on the P-40, hence my chopping them off the model, but were the ailerons all fabric, all metal or what?

                            EL-AL Murray (Pub Landlord Ret.)
                            Good question Ron, which had me scrabbling for 'America's Hundred Thousand'. It turns out the answer is a bit of both, I will quote from Dean's mighty tome.

                            "Ailerons were of all metal frame construction consisting of a metal covered leading edge section, eleven ribs, and a trailing edge member, and were statically and dynamically balanced by means of lead weights bolted into the overhanging leading edge forward of the hinge line. Aft of the leading edge section the ailerons were fabric covered."

                            Cheers

                            Edward Elliot (test pilot)

                            Comment

                            • Gary MacKenzie
                              SMF Supporter
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1057
                              • Gary
                              • Forres , Moray , Scotland

                              #15
                              This link might help @ https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...wdP_1gJeOA_19A

                              Comment

                              Working...