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    #586
    Originally posted by spanner570
    Chaps, Just a bit of info. that could be useful, and as 453 would, I hope, agree.
    Never use UHU All Purpose glue on foam boards or any form of polystyrene. It just melts the stuff . Always use UHU POR or equivalent.

    ....now back to the build.
    Correct indeed 570 !

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    • Neil Merryweather
      • Dec 2018
      • 5206
      • London

      #587
      Originally posted by spanner570
      Chaps, Just a bit of info. that could be useful, and as 453 would, I hope, agree.
      Never use UHU All Purpose glue on foam boards or any form of polystyrene. It just melts the stuff . Always use UHU POR or equivalent.

      ....now back to the build.
      I'm sorry Ron but I beg to differ. The Kapa brand of foamboard uses a polyurethane type foam which responds excellently to regular UHU. I have used it for years at work.
      It's the more expensive foamboard so seems a shame to waste the expensive UHU Por on it .
      And actually, UHU Solvent-Free works just as well on polystyrene but is cheaper.

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      • Si Benson
        • Apr 2018
        • 3572

        #588
        Morning Mr Race,
        Hope you and Mrs R managed to enjoy the big day in these strange times.

        Ive got to admit Iโ€™m a bit perplexed about a camouflage building.....really? I wondered wether youโ€™d been at the chocolate liqueurs :smiling5:!

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        • Steve Jones
          • Apr 2018
          • 6615

          #589
          This is an interesting article all about camouflaged buildings that you might be interested in

          Camo buildings

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          • adt70hk
            SMF Supporters
            • Sep 2019
            • 10438

            #590
            Originally posted by Steve Jones
            This is an interesting article all about camouflaged buildings that you might be interested in

            Camo buildings
            Thanks Steve. Bookmarked already!

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            • Tim Marlow
              • Apr 2018
              • 18944
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #591
              Thatโ€™s a great article Steve. This illustrates an aspect of war that both ourselves and the Russians excelled.
              If you want to read more, this book is fantastic as well.
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              Of particular relevance to this discussion is the disguise of a key building in Torbruk. The building (I think it was the waterworks) was not disguised to hide it, it was painted and modified to make it appear to be destroyed. This made it seem to be a non viable target for air attack so it was left alone and continued to function throughout the siege.....hidden in plain sight as it were. It also illustrates that Alamein was far more than just a slugfest....

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              • Si Benson
                • Apr 2018
                • 3572

                #592
                Originally posted by Steve Jones
                This is an interesting article all about camouflaged buildings that you might be interested in

                Camo buildings
                Very interesting. I knew about the subterfuge of dummy armies and inflatable vehicles etc but an entire building!!
                Every day is a school day:nerd:

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                • Tim Marlow
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18944
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #593
                  It was more than just buildings Si. The Arne peninsula was tricked out to be a decoy for the whole of Poole town.

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                    #594
                    Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                    I'm sorry Ron but I beg to differ. The Kapa brand of foamboard uses a polyurethane type foam which responds excellently to regular UHU. I have used it for years at work.
                    It's the more expensive foamboard so seems a shame to waste the expensive UHU Por on it .
                    And actually, UHU Solvent-Free works just as well on polystyrene but is cheaper.
                    Thanks Neil, as you know I only use Kapa board for the outer face. Good to see that UHU normal is ok.

                    Originally posted by Si Benson
                    Morning Mr Race,
                    Hope you and Mrs R managed to enjoy the big day in these strange times.

                    Ive got to admit Iโ€™m a bit perplexed about a camouflage building.....really? I wondered wether youโ€™d been at the chocolate liqueurs :smiling5:!
                    Ha Si, not had any alcohol what so ever !! and that's the truth. I'm partial to a Baileys ( other cheaper brands are available but are not worth touching ) or when ill a large hot toddy with Southern Comfort.
                    Had a enjoyable day, but so strange I'm glad it's over with out any family it was nothing.

                    Originally posted by Steve Jones
                    This is an interesting article all about camouflaged buildings that you might be interested in

                    Camo buildings
                    Thanks Steve.

                    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                    Thatโ€™s a great article Steve. This illustrates an aspect of war that both ourselves and the Russians excelled.
                    If you want to read more, this book is fantastic as well.
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                    Of particular relevance to this discussion is the disguise of a key building in Torbruk. The building (I think it was the waterworks) was not disguised to hide it, it was painted and modified to make it appear to be destroyed. This made it seem to be a non viable target for air attack so it was left alone and continued to function throughout the siege.....hidden in plain sight as it were. It also illustrates that Alamein was far more than just a slugfest....
                    Looks worth a read Tim, shall see if its available in Kindle.


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                    Started to knock the damaged wall about, want some of it down in the opening to the building. At the moment the steel roof support having been twisted and bent previously is having thin coats of paint applied.
                    Of course painted the damaged roofing sheets and then forgot to apply the black wash as they were upside down drying from another coat of internal colour. DUH.

                    Thanks for the comments.
                    John.

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                    • spanner570
                      • May 2009
                      • 15482

                      #595
                      Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                      I'm sorry Ron but I beg to differ. The Kapa brand of foamboard uses a polyurethane type foam which responds excellently to regular UHU. I have used it for years at work.
                      It's the more expensive foamboard so seems a shame to waste the expensive UHU Por on it .
                      And actually, UHU Solvent-Free works just as well on polystyrene but is cheaper.
                      Hi Neil.
                      I was basing my observations on the effect the stuff has on the foam boards I use. It just melts them before my very eyes... :anguished: So I presumed it would have the same effect on all similar foam to the stuff I use.

                      So good to read UHU GP does work on most foam boards, as it's a darn sight cheaper than UHU POR too.

                      Thanks for the info., much appreciated. :thumb2:

                      Sorry for the slight diversion 453.

                      Vesuvius II (Inc.)

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                      • Neil Merryweather
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 5206
                        • London

                        #596
                        Originally posted by spanner570
                        Hi Neil.
                        I was basing my observations on the effect the stuff has on the foam boards I use. It just melts them before my very eyes... :anguished: So I presumed it would have the same effect on all similar foam to the stuff I use.

                        So good to read UHU GP does work on most foam boards, as it's a darn sight cheaper than UHU POR too.

                        Thanks for the info., much appreciated. :thumb2:

                        Sorry for the slight diversion 453.

                        Vesuvius II (Inc.)
                        Cheers Ron
                        I really hate to keep this going, and I hope you (and John) will forgive me , but UHU GP doesn't work on most foamboards, it's just the KAPA brand that is different.
                        It's the UHU SOLVENT FREE that does, and is the cheap alternative to UHU POR.
                        It seems a VERY petty point to be pushing, but I would feel terrible if someone reading this had a bad result due to my interference.
                        Pedant hat off, now back to John's brilliant building(and a gun or something)
                        sorry everyone

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                          #597
                          Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                          Cheers Ron
                          I really hate to keep this going, and I hope you (and John) will forgive me , but UHU GP doesn't work on most foamboards, it's just the KAPA brand that is different.
                          It's the UHU SOLVENT FREE that does, and is the cheap alternative to UHU POR.
                          It seems a VERY petty point to be pushing, but I would feel terrible if someone reading this had a bad result due to my interference.
                          Pedant hat off, now back to John's brilliant building(and a gun or something)
                          sorry everyone
                          Of course Neil, you have far more experience of using Kapa board at work than I ever will.
                          What gun ? is there supposed to be one :upside:

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                            #598
                            Just a tease , as nearly at the finish line .

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                            Tried to make this look like an old war time photo.
                            More tomorrow in the finished dio section.
                            Thanks for looking in .

                            John.

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                            • Tim Marlow
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 18944
                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #599
                              Nice teaser John......

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                              • Si Benson
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 3572

                                #600
                                Ooooo......your such a tease Mr Race

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