1/35 Scale Shadow box Dinner on the front line from Miniart.

[JR]

LOOKIN GOOD 453 an the pan will just scrape in for size lol an im armed with me knife an fork like i bet 570 is lol

Was hoping you and 570 would appreciate that Chris. Imagine trying to lift it !

I favor the cross section with everything inside the box......it would be more dramatic and you would have more options to get the lighting right. Just me thots..... :thinking: :thumb2:

Thanks Rick, seems the best idea.

It's gonna be something superb....l can't wait

Thank Greg, might take a bit of time, can you find something to keep you busy :nerd:

Neat set and idea John, with your creativity we're in for a treat:smiling:

Fernando I shall try my best , thank you for that .

Great ideas! PaulE

Seems to have been accepted by all then Paul .

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Have found a frame , just need to alter the mount. Somewhere in the cave is a mount cutter anda straight foam board cutter, yet to be located.
Can see that as tomorrow's task !
Thanks guys .
Dzhon .

[Graeme C.]

It's a different kind of diorama, I'm in John, a samovar too, I'll avoid the Russian urn jokes.....

[Jim R]

Hi John
Ideas flowing thick and fast. A very exciting project. I suppose you can only plan so much on advance - it will evolve as you get into the build.
Jim

[adt70hk]

Great idea John. I have great expectations that this will be up to your usual standard.

ATB.

Andrew

[JR]

It's a different kind of diorama, I'm in John, a samovar too, I'll avoid the Russian urn jokes.....

Thank you Graeme, appreciate that

Hi John
Ideas flowing thick and fast. A very exciting project. I suppose you can only plan so much on advance - it will evolve as you get into the build.
Jim

They are indeed Jim. I've cut a frame card to the size I need and got the foam board ready .
Tonight I drew up a exploded diagram showing how and where every thing board wise will be along with a rough lighting plan.
Going to be very different from a normal diorama, after the foam board walls etc are cut they will have to be finished off before any thing can be glued. A lot of forward planning will be needed to make sure I don't miss stages up. No doubt things will change as this moves along .

Great idea John. I have great expectations that this will be up to your usual standard.

ATB.

Andrew

Thanks Andrew, kind of you to say.

[wotan]

John

I don't know if this is too late, but I seem to remember that you are also a chippy, so this is not hard to knock up. I do suggest that you construct your shadow box a little like this so that you can insert the actual model and still remove it to adjust placement and lighting and so on. You will also have two lighting circuits in this design, one on the model itself and another attached to the box to give the outdoor ambient lighting.



Of course feel free to ignore this completely if you have your own method.

John

[JR]

John

I don't know if this is too late, but I seem to remember that you are also a chippy, so this is not hard to knock up. I do suggest that you construct your shadow box a little like this so that you can insert the actual model and still remove it to adjust placement and lighting and so on. You will also have two lighting circuits in this design, one on the model itself and another attached to the box to give the outdoor ambient lighting.

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Of course feel free to ignore this completely if you have your own method.

John

Hi John, thanks for that, doing it the opposite way !! So somewhere near :smiling: Going to put it in from the back as these photos will show




The mount had to be altered first, as in this photo, just widened 6mm all-round.

Then on to the foam board cutting, not using my preferred Kappa Line as the board will remain with paper faces on inside the diorama.



Cutting the board is much easier using this Logan cutter and rail, having used panel cutting saws for years I like to use make thing easier.

With a sacrificial 5mm foam board underneath the take the point of the cutter the cut is soon made. I use two cuts, keeping the track help in place., not the off cuts to enable the cutter to start and have a run off.



Started with the out box , its only taped up at the moment. I'll be putting a side hinge so access can be made to the batteries .



This frame will sit right on the base of outer frame for strength. when sitting on the table.



Inner box made, again taped together at this point. It will have to be fully lined with the timbers and roof with all the internal parts fitted before its put together.



This photo taken on the bench show the lower section where the bunker will be, the upper section set back will have a small amount of lightweight Sculpty mound and the front section a the hight of the set back line. This will give about 35 mm full depth of filler / soil over the roof. that equates to around 1200mm.



The lower inserts are just to hold up the roof, all this will be marked up tomorrow , taken fully apart and construction of the internal walls , etc will start.

Now I can work out the lighting for the bunker , and the separate lights for the top , these will be flashing to simulate artillery fire.
Light for the stove and some hidden light behind some cross members for the oil lamps in both room. Back grounds above ground will have to be painted onto the paper face of the board.


Any comments or hints , suggestions always welcome.

Thanks for looking in.

Dzhon.

[outrunner]

Terrific work there John.

Andy.

[JR]

Terrific work there John.

Andy.

Thanks Andy .

[boatman]

Goin to look great John
CHRIS

[JR]

Goin to look great John
CHRIS

Thanks mate. Going to be fun building it in sections, bit like your shi !
Going to buy the lights, solder fumes not good for my chest and the saving on what I need is not worth trying to do it myself.

[wotan]

Very neat John. Looks like you've got this under control. BTW you could paint the backdrop for the above ground section or alternatively you could just find a photo online that suits the scene and just print it at the size you need.

John

[David Lovell]

Apologies for late arrival ,missed the food again ,still all is looking good , well thought out much easier with a good plan of action , looking forward to the next instalment. Dave

[JR]

Very neat John. Looks like you've got this under control. BTW you could paint the backdrop for the above ground section or alternatively you could just find a photo online that suits the scene and just print it at the size you need.

John

Many thanks John, yes need to have a look on line

Apologies for late arrival ,missed the food again ,still all is looking good , well thought out much easier with a good plan of action , looking forward to the next instalment. Dave

Food will be available Dave, hope you like cabbage soup !. Thanks for looking in , no need for apologies.

[Jim R]

Hi John
This is developing into a most interesting and informative thread - enjoying it,
Jim