Where the water will be coming in
And leaving
And with attempt number ????? to get an idea of what it may look like
And leaving
And with attempt number ????? to get an idea of what it may look like
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I have never attempted moving water......this should be interesting. Rick H.Comment
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Nor have I, :tongue-out3: but there's got to be a first time for anything new - luckily, I've a very nearly new tube of clear silicon that I had to open for a little job, so plenty to play about with, but will have only the 'one shot' at it when putting it onto the dio, as I think that it'll stick like the proverbial to a blanket. so at the moment playing with different 'sculpting' and painting techniques, then it'll be play with working it at an angle & in small spaces - so quite a way to go, might have to get another tube!!!:thinking:Comment
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Gerry,
This is really looking good I am interested to see how the water turns out.Comment
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So am I :tongue-out3: :smiling:
All I can do, is to keep practicing and eventually, it should come together, at the moment, I feel that I'm overdoing the white & while all the photos I find on t'internet show white water from top to bottom of a fall, it just 'whites out' on the dio and there's no definition.
Tried a few ways so far, from 'injecting' the paint while sculpting, to painting highlights then 'drifting' a spray over it, still not happy with the results though. Trouble is, it takes a day for the silicon to dry off enough to paint, though I can get a rough idea of how it'll look while it's still wet if held at an angle to the light.Comment
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Gerry. Firstly, 10/10 for bravery. Moving water is something else. Kudos.
Not for one moment assuming that you aren't aware of this gentlemans work, I thought it'd be worth a look.
To be honest I'm not saying it's perfect but he does have some really nice touches.Comment
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Hi Gerry, 10 for effort.:thumb2:
To avoid the silicon from sticking try cling wrapping the surface. The weight of the silicon will press the cling wrap into the little corners. When hardened you can snip or tear away the cling wrap...it's clear so can be part of the water as well. You can re-attach the sculpt with fresh silicon using an old small brush that you want discarded later.
You can work in stages and join with silicon. If I can recall it stays in shape and seldom shrink. I know commercial tube silicon starts skinning the moment it leaves the vessel but if you work quickly and extrude the stuff into a working cup you could add a little food coloring and mix like hell and work from there with a spatula, ice-cream sticks and old soft paint brush.
I would suggest airbrushing the whites in and final highlights dry brushing with a paint brush.
That's my 2 cents...basically 8 sen in Malaysian ringgit.
Cheers,
RichardComment
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Sounds like a reasonable approach Richard.......remind me to pick your brain when I get brave enough to try this moving water scheme in the future. Press on Gerry.....you have lots of support :thumb2:
Rick H.Comment
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Dan,
Had seen the video - always worth another watch though, as there's bits that I spot on subsequent watches.
There's also a railway modeller from Scandinavia that I've been watching, who uses silicon and varnish to great effect - same as our very own Ron does.
The only thing with both of the railway modellers are their falls are straight, mine is 'bouncing', so I'm thinking that I'm going to have to work directly onto the dio.
Though my thoughts are that while I can watch loads of videos, there's only one way of getting results, and that's by trying and failing a few times (videos help by hopefully cutting down on the number of fails).Comment
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Richard,Hi Gerry, 10 for effort.:thumb2:
To avoid the silicon from sticking try cling wrapping the surface. The weight of the silicon will press the cling wrap into the little corners. When hardened you can snip or tear away the cling wrap...it's clear so can be part of the water as well. You can re-attach the sculpt with fresh silicon using an old small brush that you want discarded later.
You can work in stages and join with silicon. If I can recall it stays in shape and seldom shrink. I know commercial tube silicon starts skinning the moment it leaves the vessel but if you work quickly and extrude the stuff into a working cup you could add a little food coloring and mix like hell and work from there with a spatula, ice-cream sticks and old soft paint brush.
I would suggest airbrushing the whites in and final highlights dry brushing with a paint brush.
That's my 2 cents...basically 8 sen in Malaysian ringgit.
Cheers,
Richard
I've found out that silicon doesn't stick to sellotape very well, (when I used the 'merge' pebble 'mold' to try and get the final 'fall' into the larger pool) might just give the area a cling film 'coat' - did think of lining with sellotape (but thought about removing it and decided not to!), to see how hard it's going to be to try and get the falls in place and work on them.
The clear silicon I've got doesn't shrink and 'skins' in about half an hour (but remains wet in the middle for about a day) ends up being like a soft rubber which retains its shape.
Funnily enough, I was just getting to the conclusion that I might just be able to use an old toothbrush to try for the splashes (got a couple in the box).
At the moment, I'm grateful for any and all suggestions for it.Comment
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Rick,
Give it a whirl, the silicon is cheap enough (mine came from Aldi and has a £2.99 price marked on it, so it was probably less!) and it's about a 500ml tube, so plenty to play with (got to be used within a year) and with your skills, people will be watering their gardens with the result!Comment
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Gerry
I wouldn't even know where to start on moving water. I hope you work it out.
AndrewComment
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That's the ticket Gerry.........just keep at it till you get the result you want :thumb2: Rick H.Comment
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