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  • Gern
    SMF Supporters
    • May 2009
    • 9213

    #1

    Impasse

    I still haven't worked out a way to build the tracks on my little fire engine, so just as a little diversion, I've come back to my favourite sort of build - a diorama.

    I built the figures for this some years ago and I've worked out the best way to show them over the last few days. I won't show them until I've finished so don't ask. I am open to bribery and corruption however so a large donation of high value banknotes sent to my address in a plain brown wrapper might just induce me to cough up some clues. PM me for my address if you're that desperate!

    Meantime, some pics of the usual materials I'll be selecting from for the base:

    Assorted greenery (railroad stuff, flock and grass, trees and fish tank plants):

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    Rocks (cast from moulds):

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    Base materials (only offcuts and scraps here but I got lots of 4'x2' sheets upstairs if I need more):

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    On to the build.
  • Gern
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    • May 2009
    • 9213

    #2
    Most of my dios have unfinished sides and edges. I'm going to try and produce something a bit tidier and with that in mind, I need to build a box.

    I have a piece of 6mm MDF for a base and I'll use some 10mm extruded foam for the sides. As the foam will have to support the rocks made from plaster of Paris which is heavy, the sides will need some internal supports - starting with the base:

    These blocks are of 20mm foam. I'll use a 10mm thick piece to line them flush with the edges of the base. A scrap of wood weighed down will allow the PVA to bond properly:

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    A selection of David Baldacci novels will provide sufficient weight:

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    • Jim R
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      • Apr 2018
      • 15687
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #3
      Oh you're a tease Dave. Mysterious figures and hints of what is to come. I'm hooked :hugging-face:

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      • boatman
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        • Nov 2018
        • 14456
        • christopher
        • NORFOLK UK

        #4
        :thinking: an i also am open to bribery and corruption however so a large donation of high value banknotes sent to my address in a plain brown wrapper might just induce me to cough up some clues. on my tiger build lol:rolling::smiling6::smiling6: PM me for my address if you're that desperate!:rolling::smiling::smiling:
        chrisb oh you make me laugh Dave what a brilliant mind you have should have been a politaian lol:rolling:

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        • spanner570
          SMF Supporters
          • May 2009
          • 15391

          #5
          Interesting project Dave.

          Don't forget to put some of that PVA on the MDF!

          Rather than send money in the post, I will bring the stuff to Cosford next year.............:sad:

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          • outrunner
            • Apr 2019
            • 2420

            #6
            This should be interesting as anyone who reads David Baldacci is worth paying attention to.


            Andy.

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            • Gern
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              • May 2009
              • 9213

              #7
              Got the box done. Stuck with PVA glue with dressmaking pins pushed in at various angles to hold the sides in place (they will be removed later):

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              The PVA was splashed on and spread about more or less evenly using one of my superb brushes:

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              Once the PVA has dried I got to do some mejurin' so I can work out what support I need on the inside of the box.

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              • Tim Marlow
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                • Apr 2018
                • 18901
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #8
                Originally posted by Gern
                Got the box done. Stuck with PVA glue with dressmaking pins pushed in at various angles to hold the sides in place (they will be removed later):

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                The PVA was splashed on and spread about more or less evenly using one of my superb brushes:

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                Once the PVA has dried I got to do some mejurin' so I can work out what support I need on the inside of the box.
                If you painted a face on that brush it could double for beaker out of the muppets…….

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                • Gern
                  SMF Supporters
                  • May 2009
                  • 9213

                  #9
                  OK. Box is finished (rough and ready but it will all be covered and strengthened when I add the rocks using Hard as Nails and more plaster of Paris).

                  I can start with the groundworks when the PVA has set.

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                  And the reason I have to get the vacuum cleaner out once the neighbours are up and about. This stuff has drifted almost all over the floor in the lounge and some even followed me into the kitchen when I went to clean my brush (one of the perks of dioramering)!

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                  • Andy the Sheep
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                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1864
                    • Andrea
                    • North Eastern Italy

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gern
                    Got the box done. Stuck with PVA glue with dressmaking pins pushed in at various angles to hold the sides in place (they will be removed later):

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1187930[/ATTACH]

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1187931[/ATTACH]

                    The PVA was splashed on and spread about more or less evenly using one of my superb brushes:

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                    Once the PVA has dried I got to do some mejurin' so I can work out what support I need on the inside of the box.
                    Wow! It looks like Samanta Cristoforetti hairs when in the space station! :upside:

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                    • Gern
                      SMF Supporters
                      • May 2009
                      • 9213

                      #11
                      Take 2.

                      I thought I had enough rocks already cast to create the groundworks - I didn't. There were too many gaps that needed to be filled. Rather than struggle to remove bits I'd already fixed using 'No More Nails', which would have broken either the foam or the cast rocks or both, I scrapped the whole thing except the base and started again.

                      Out with the rubber moulds, Crystacal, measuring jug and weighing scales and a few hours work and now I have enough rocks. Not fixed in place yet, but I absolutely have what I need to cover the vertical back faces of my box.

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                      Plenty of pieces left to fill gaps or swap around as needed:

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                      Now comes the messy bit - hacking and cutting the cast pieces to fit and filling gaps as needed with all-purpose filler. I'll trim the box sides to match the rock faces when they're done.

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                      • Gern
                        SMF Supporters
                        • May 2009
                        • 9213

                        #12
                        OK. Got all the rocks done.

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                        Waiting now for the filler to set before I trim the box sides. I'll have to seal the foam with a PVA/water mix as the washes I'll be using to colour the rocks would otherwise soak into it. I don't know if that would have any effect but no point taking chances.

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                        • Jim R
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 15687
                          • Jim
                          • Shropshire

                          #13
                          I've seen those rock moulds advertised but this is the first time I remember seeing them used. They are certainly effective. I don't know how many different moulds you have used here but the result looks natural and random.

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                          • Gern
                            SMF Supporters
                            • May 2009
                            • 9213

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jim R
                            I've seen those rock moulds advertised but this is the first time I remember seeing them used. They are certainly effective. I don't know how many different moulds you have used here but the result looks natural and random.
                            I have about 10 moulds, most of which are designed to represent rock faces. There are others which represent things like small boulders and stream beds. I think I used about six for this. If you've not seen them used before, prepare yourself for some real magic!

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                            • Gern
                              SMF Supporters
                              • May 2009
                              • 9213

                              #15
                              While waiting for the filler to set up, I thought I'd prepare some 'grass'.

                              Start with some faux fur.

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                              Spread a little common or garden housepaint using tiny little spots of paint on your fingers - making sure it's well rubbed in and spread around.

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                              And you get this:

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                              I may have to go back over some bits which are still a bit shiny, but I don't think so. There seems to be a decent colour variation which you would expect to see in a field of wild grasses so I should be OK.

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