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  • adt70hk
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    • Sep 2019
    • 10422

    #31
    Originally posted by Allen Dewire
    Very much appreciated John, Thanks again...


    Thanks very much Jim. It was time consuming, but they're finished now...


    Thanks Paul, but I didn't realize it was an actual SBS when I wrote the post. I guess it wouldn't do you much good in your scale though my friend...

    I have been doing quite a bit on this of late and sorry for the late replies. I have found that one just can't sit at the table the whole day and play. Rather unhealthy I'm afraid. I have taken this month off from work as things are rather slow this time of year, so I take walks and ride my bike to get some exercise between bouts at the table. Now, moving along, we finished the shell casings,

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    I have no idea what to do with the left-over warheads though. In total we have 48 so far. If I do need more, then I have another 48 as backup. I then finished up the turret. I glued the muzzle brake back onto the barrel after I got it as round as I could with the scraper. Then glued it all together, added the lifting hooks and scratched a cupola cover for the turret,

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    The normal drum cupola was stripped off including periscopes and the parts were used for repairs on other battle worthy Panthers elsewhere in the Reich. To finish off the Panther, I added the tool/equipment holders that were welded on the hull, but stripped of all their tools,

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    And on the other side,

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    Of course, you won't be able to see them once the hull is buried in the street, but they were there,

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    With the Panther done, it was time to plan out the street section. I had some blue foam in the stash that I bought at the Euro in 2016, but never used. I figured I could scribe the cobble stones into it and didn't have to be too large in size. I ended up having to use two thickness' as there was only one sheet of each in the pack of 4-6mm. No problem as 1mm isn't a big deal in size. I now give you a top-secret German weapon. The "SchwimmPanther",

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    Ok, Panther's never did swim!!! This size allows me to build up the dirt and cobble stones, scatter the shell casings and not have it too large in scale. It's not set in stone yet and I may change it a bit. Another view,

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    The chassis will sit a bit deeper as this is just a test fit. Now it was time to move forward...

    I woke up yesterday and decided to get stoned...No, not that stuff we did way back when...Cobble stones folks. I knew I would need quite a few and I had the plan,

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    Cut the strips @ 0.5mm and chopped them off @ 0.8mm length. The leftovers would be used too as these were different lengths to fill the odd spaces. I made 20 strips and after chopping them up, I had about 300 cobbles. Looking at the reference pics to see how they were placed, I noticed something odd. The damn cobbles were twice as big in diameter as the shells. Huh!!! Wrong thickness of foam used!!! We are building a street scene here, not the Reichstag. Time to get stoned again!!! Using smaller thickness foam and an hour or two later, we had them done,

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    The big Reichstag blocks on the left and the real street cobbles on the right. You can really see the difference between the two. I think there are about 400 in the plastic bowl to use around the tank. Next up will be designing a base for the dio and then scribing the cobbles into the foam sheet around the tank......

    It's ice cold here and the temps don't go above -2° the whole day. Nights are -12° or more. I just love winter. Thanks again for looking in and I hope to have an update soon. Have a good Wednesday and stay warm folks...

    Prost
    Allen
    Wow! 'nuff said!!

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    • Airborne01
      • Mar 2021
      • 4001
      • Steve
      • Essex

      #32
      Developing superbly Allen!
      Steve

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      • Mini Me
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        • Jun 2018
        • 10711

        #33
        Evvvvvvrybodddddddddy Musssssst get Stonnnnnnnnned! :tongue-out3: Dylan was one of my faves.......looks great Allen hope you don't go loopy laying all that rock.

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        • Graeme C.
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Graeme
          • UK

          #34
          Interesting bit of history you're recreating there Allen, those cobbles look like a lot of work though.

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          • Allen Dewire
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            • Apr 2018
            • 4741
            • Allen
            • Bamberg

            #35
            Once again, I'm late to my own party...Apologies for the very late replies Gentlemen. Christmas and all that sort of rot.....

            Originally posted by adt70hk
            Wow! 'nuff said!!
            Thanks Andrew! Don't know about the wow factor yet though...

            Originally posted by Airborne01
            Developing superbly Allen!
            Steve
            Much appreciated Steve and I can only wish it gets better. Hope you had a Merry Sir!!!...

            Originally posted by Mini Me
            Evvvvvvrybodddddddddy Musssssst get Stonnnnnnnnned! :tongue-out3: Dylan was one of my faves.......looks great Allen hope you don't go loopy laying all that rock.
            Easy Buddy, we don't want to let the cat of the bag, now do we??? Actually, laying the blocks really won't be too bad. I think painting them will be 100% worse...

            Originally posted by Graeme C.
            Interesting bit of history you're recreating there Allen, those cobbles look like a lot of work though.
            Thank you, Graeme. Cobbles were actually quite easy to make with a sharp knife and the RP Toolz cutter. Its history is extemely interesting and terrifying too. Berlin, in Feb.-May 1945, was not a place I would have wanted to be in. Real scary stuff happening. I do hope you and the family had a wonderful Christmas and you got lots of pressies Sir!!!...

            With Crimbo over, it was time to get going on this again. I had to ditch the SchwimmPanther street as it wasn't working at all. I did have another idea to use styrofoam for the base. Have lots at work, but I'm off for the month, so I asked my friend Uli if he had anything in the shop behind my house. He gave me a slab of this,

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            5cm thick foam insulation with alu coating. I cut off a chunk, peeled the alu off and went about chopping out a hole to fit the Panther. This foam is (luckily) easy to work with and doesn't make a big mess either. After an hour of fine tuning the cut-out, we had this,

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            Panther in a hole!!! Ok, the foam is 5cm deep and the Panther needed less than a 4cm depth. I used a wood skewer stabbed into the foam to support the front. The hooks hold it in place on the back,

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            With that done, I made some cobblestone forms from 2 pencils and a paint brush ferrule. I did a test on the insulation foam but had terrible results as it's too coarse for the imprint to work. Back to my blue foam,

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            Here are my trial samples. As you can see, the top and side imprints were funky, so I had to modify the ferrules a bit. The bottom left prints are too square. The bottom right prints look PDG (pretty damn good) to my eyes, so we'll go with it!!! The bottom right last print (overlaps my mistakes) is from the paint brush ferrule, smaller in length as the others and very useful for corners and gap filling. Then I pulled out a sheet of 2mm blue foam and cut it to the size of the base. The sheet was smaller than the base, but worked,

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            I have to shave the right side of the base as it's cut a little crooked and remove 1 1/2 cms from the rear as the foam is lumpy. The strip will fill most of the blank area at the rear. I have some 1mm and 3mm to finish it off, if needed. The blank area in the front will be built up with dirt and blocks...

            Next up, the fun begins, and with nerves of steel (beer), I have to imprint the cobbles into the street foam!!! Lucky me...Again, I apologize for the late replies and all C, C, and Abuse is cheerfully accepted. Have a great evening one and all!!! Cold one time!!!..........

            Prost
            Allen
            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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            • BattleshipBob
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              • Apr 2018
              • 6803
              • Bob
              • Cardiff

              #36
              Somehow missed this Allen??

              Just caught up, really impressed. Some great skills.

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              • Mini Me
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                • Jun 2018
                • 10711

                #37
                "Cobble" on Allen.....this is shaping up nicely and I am extremely interested in this particular subject, as I have a few Panther D's that have been robbed of their engine decks to help me create early (low fan) G's....... I have often wondered what I could do with the rest of the tank.......problem solved! :thumb2:

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                • scottie3158
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                  • Apr 2018
                  • 14216
                  • Paul
                  • Holbeach

                  #38
                  Allen,
                  Love where this is heading. I do my cobbles the same way with and old paint brush ferrule. If I can say when you have cut all the cobbles, screw up a ball of baking foil into a tight ball then run that over the surface it gives a great texture to the stones.

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                  • Allen Dewire
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 4741
                    • Allen
                    • Bamberg

                    #39
                    Happy New Year folks and sorry for the replies a year late...

                    Originally posted by Bobthestug
                    Somehow missed this Allen??

                    Just caught up, really impressed. Some great skills.
                    Thanks Bob!!! It's a fun project and I'm trying to give it my best. Hope you and Julie had a good holiday my friend...

                    Originally posted by Mini Me
                    "Cobble" on Allen.....this is shaping up nicely and I am extremely interested in this particular subject, as I have a few Panther D's that have been robbed of their engine decks to help me create early (low fan) G's....... I have often wondered what I could do with the rest of the tank.......problem solved! :thumb2:
                    Got no choice Rick......You should try it with the Panther's you have. The only prob I see is you trying to make cobbles in your scale...Do you have a microscope to use for them??? Thanks and take care Bro...

                    Originally posted by scottie3158
                    Allen,
                    Love where this is heading. I do my cobbles the same way with and old paint brush ferrule. If I can say when you have cut all the cobbles, screw up a ball of baking foil into a tight ball then run that over the surface it gives a great texture to the stones.
                    Thanks Brother and it almost headed into the bin. It did work out good in the end though. Thanks for the tip and I will definitely give it a shot in the morn. You did mean tin foil???...

                    So, after a few sessions at the table, some cold ones and watching some killer concerts on the telly New Year's Eve, I started to make a screwed up typical Berlin cobblestone street,

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                    I got this far before I had to stop, as I was ferruled out!!! I tried to break up the pattern a bit to give it some character and not be monotonous. In other words, when the construction company made this street, way back when, they were under the influence of too many Berliner Pils while setting the cobblestones in place.............With the Panther in place,

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                    Ok, so we are getting someplace here......Today, I went about finishing the street up. With ferrule in hand, I pressed on. I also trimmed the base block on the right side to make it square again. I also cut off 1.5cm from the rear of the block. And then,

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                    It's not perfect and you can see where the sheets end. I had to make a two-piece section for the left side to finish it. You can see the diagonal joint, but earth will cover it up. I left the rear section blank as it was where they dug out the hole to put the Panther in. it will have dirt and rows of blocks built up. Same in the front and on the sides. You can also see the wood skewer that supports the front of the Panther. It makes it easy to take it out to work on the base. You slip the nose into the hole and slide it forward and the rear falls into place and stays there. Works for me...

                    That's it for now. Still a lot to do. Painting is also still a prob here. It's warmed up a bit, but the winds and rain are killing me. Thanks again for looking in and have a great week all...

                    Prost
                    Allen
                    Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                    • Lee Drennen
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 7711

                      #40
                      Happy New Year Allen! Looking good

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                      • Mini Me
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                        • Jun 2018
                        • 10711

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Allen Dewire
                        Happy New Year folks and sorry for the replies a year late...


                        Thanks Bob!!! It's a fun project and I'm trying to give it my best. Hope you and Julie had a good holiday my friend...


                        Got no choice Rick......You should try it with the Panther's you have. The only prob I see is you trying to make cobbles in your scale...Do you have a microscope to use for them??? Thanks and take care Bro...


                        Thanks Brother and it almost headed into the bin. It did work out good in the end though. Thanks for the tip and I will definitely give it a shot in the morn. You did mean tin foil???...

                        So, after a few sessions at the table, some cold ones and watching some killer concerts on the telly New Year's Eve, I started to make a screwed up typical Berlin cobblestone street,

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                        I got this far before I had to stop, as I was ferruled out!!! I tried to break up the pattern a bit to give it some character and not be monotonous. In other words, when the construction company made this street, way back when, they were under the influence of too many Berliner Pils while setting the cobblestones in place.............With the Panther in place,

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                        Ok, so we are getting someplace here......Today, I went about finishing the street up. With ferrule in hand, I pressed on. I also trimmed the base block on the right side to make it square again. I also cut off 1.5cm from the rear of the block. And then,

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                        It's not perfect and you can see where the sheets end. I had to make a two-piece section for the left side to finish it. You can see the diagonal joint, but earth will cover it up. I left the rear section blank as it was where they dug out the hole to put the Panther in. it will have dirt and rows of blocks built up. Same in the front and on the sides. You can also see the wood skewer that supports the front of the Panther. It makes it easy to take it out to work on the base. You slip the nose into the hole and slide it forward and the rear falls into place and stays there. Works for me...

                        That's it for now. Still a lot to do. Painting is also still a prob here. It's warmed up a bit, but the winds and rain are killing me. Thanks again for looking in and have a great week all...

                        Prost
                        Allen
                        Looking the Dog's Huevos Allen......cobbles no prob Sir.........come pre stamped on craft type paper from the hobby store!

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                        • boatman
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                          • Nov 2018
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                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #42
                          HI Allen somehow i missed this so ive just looked through your blog an its very intresting an nice building work you have done an i again did not know that they did this with tanks that were no longer usable in the defence of berlin but it was a very good idea as thats all thats needed in this type of warfare of defence so ive lernt something today
                          chrisb

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                          • Jim R
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Jim
                            • Shropshire

                            #43
                            Just had a most enjoyable catch-up Allen. Lots of experimenting and solving problems. Glad the tank got suitably buried. Cobbles look great. The tip for using a screwed up piece of kitchen foil to texture the foam is good.

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                            • Allen Dewire
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 4741
                              • Allen
                              • Bamberg

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Lee Drennen
                              Happy New Year Allen! Looking good
                              Thanks Lee!!! It was fun, but I'm glad all the noise is over till next New Year...

                              Originally posted by Mini Me
                              Looking the Dog's Huevos Allen......cobbles no prob Sir.........come pre stamped on craft type paper from the hobby store!
                              Too kind Buddy!!! And what's this cheating crap with imprinted paper??? Scratchy baby, scratchy is the way to go...

                              Originally posted by boatman
                              HI Allen somehow i missed this so ive just looked through your blog an its very intresting an nice building work you have done an i again did not know that they did this with tanks that were no longer usable in the defence of berlin but it was a very good idea as thats all thats needed in this type of warfare of defence so ive lernt something today
                              chrisb
                              That's what is so great about this forum Chris. I learn new tricks all the time too. Glad you like it. Not nearly as technical as your Tiger build that is still way over my head. I hope you and Jen had a happy New Year and take care of yourselves...

                              Originally posted by Jim R
                              Just had a most enjoyable catch-up Allen. Lots of experimenting and solving problems. Glad the tank got suitably buried. Cobbles look great. The tip for using a screwed up piece of kitchen foil to texture the foam is good.
                              Much appreciated Jim!!! You look at the pics and it seems pretty easy to re-create and then...DOH!!! Not even close...I have never worked with foamboard before, and our man JR has helped me a lot. I still have to try the tin foil trick, as I don't have any left after the holidays. I have to buy a new roll tomorrow...

                              Playing around today, I decided to get the street glued down to the foam block. I broke out the cheap white glue and started sling it all around. I didn't realize that a little is better than too much and had to wipe it back. When I pressed the big piece of street down, the stuff oozed everywhere. Cleanup was in order and then a couple of wood CD rack shelves and 2 weights placed on them, so it could dry flat. After a few hours, I glued the other 2 smaller pieces down (using less white glue) again with the shelves and weights on top,

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                              I let this dry for a few hours and then did a test fit to see how it would look,

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                              Yup, looks like a Panther in a hole in the street...A side view,

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                              and another view,

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                              I'll have to check using my loose cobbles as it looks like she might sit too deep and have to be raised up a bit. I'll do that in the morn.

                              Thanks once again for having a look and the encouraging comments folks. It definitely keeps the Mojo soaring!!! As usual, all C, C, and abuse is encouraged and cheerfully accepted. Have a good one!!!

                              Prost
                              Allen
                              Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                              • The Smythe Meister
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 6248

                                #45
                                That's looking very nice indeed Allen,
                                Excellent stuff Sir... Love it

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