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  • tr1ckey66
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    • Mar 2009
    • 3592

    #61
    Looking good Allen. It’ll be interesting seeing this develop. Do you plan any figures?
    Cheers, P

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    • Jim R
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      • Apr 2018
      • 15735
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #62
      That is coming on a treat Allen. Every problem you come across you sort a solution. The cobbles will pull it all together. Love the shell painting production line.

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      • Mini Me
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        • Jun 2018
        • 10711

        #63
        Excellent progress Mr. Allen, will you be chamfering the edges of your foam dirt pile or is that not necessary given you are using cobble stones? :thumb2:

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        • yak face
          Moderator
          • Jun 2009
          • 13845
          • Tony
          • Sheffield

          #64
          Allen please accept my apologies and a crate of cold ones - ive only just found this thread. Been having a read through and theres some fantastic work going on here , scratching of the finest order. A fascinating subject too , new to me and a great choice for a dio . Now sat at the back of the rabble with a beer and a bag of pork scratchings ,watching with interest , cheers tony

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          • Allen Dewire
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            • Apr 2018
            • 4741
            • Allen
            • Bamberg

            #65
            Thanks so much for your continued interest and patience good people. We are progressing......A little. First,

            Originally posted by scottie3158
            Dude.



            Good to see you cracking on with this. Looking good.
            Thanks Bro, I can't stop now even if I wanted to. Loads of fun!!!..

            Originally posted by John Race
            Following this Dude1 , very nice reading through your methods .pm on way .
            Most of them came from you and your work with the foamboard Dude 2. Thanks for that!!!...

            Originally posted by tr1ckey66
            Looking good Allen. It’ll be interesting seeing this develop. Do you plan any figures?
            Cheers, P
            It's finally starting to get there and thanks Paul. I'm not sure about figures as it might be hard to know which ones to use. I did think about 1 or 2 tankers running away because they were out of ammo or maybe a civilian standing there looking at the turret and wondering.

            Originally posted by Jim R
            That is coming on a treat Allen. Every problem you come across you sort a solution. The cobbles will pull it all together. Love the shell painting production line.
            Appreciate it Jim. It's a learning curve for sure, but I must say it's fun at the same time. I think Henry Ford would be proud too!!!...

            Originally posted by Mini Me
            Excellent progress Mr. Allen, will you be chamfering the edges of your foam dirt pile or is that not necessary given you are using cobble stones? :thumb2:
            No chamfering here Buddy!!! Double row of cobbles around the whole thing for a little added protection is the plan (like the pic)...


            Originally posted by yak face
            Allen please accept my apologies and a crate of cold ones - ive only just found this thread. Been having a read through and theres some fantastic work going on here , scratching of the finest order. A fascinating subject too , new to me and a great choice for a dio . Now sat at the back of the rabble with a beer and a bag of pork scratchings ,watching with interest , cheers tony
            Never a need to apologize Tony and with so much happening on the forum, one can never keep up. Hell, I didn't see your Loopin' build until it was finished Sir!!! Thanks for the crate of beer and you can share it with the rabble. I grabbed a new rack last Thursday while at Stammtisch at the Wagner brewery...

            In between my bouts of reality loss and money squandering, I glued the 'berm ring' to the base and let it dry,

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            Had to use lots of things to hold it down so it would dry flat around the Panther. The shells are finally finished and a couple of sample cobbles put down to check the height,

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            Not too bad and they sit about level with the 'berm ring'. Then I noticed that the cobbles were longer than the cobbles in the street. Oh boy, that's not cutting it at all!!! Did a measure and they are about 2mm longer than they should be. Bad words later and a cold one, it was time to correct this major malfunction,

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            Singing the Isley Brothers' song "Work to Do", I went at it, 3 blocks at a time!!! Old ones in the tub, newly cut ones in the lid and scraps on the paper. I didn't cut them all down because I wanted to start laying them to see how many I would really need. Mixed white glue with some water and let the games begin!!! Eventually, and with many new gray hairs, we had this,

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            The first row done and set aside to dry. There are a few places where I should have spaced them further apart and in others, the glue drew them together. For the first row, I think it came out pretty well. When I do the second row on top, I can fix them with a bit more space in between. I'll then concentrate on filling the back side behind the Panther. All this will be covered in dirt and the gaps will also have dirt filled in them. After the second row is done and dry, I will give the street and the cobble rows a thin coat of cheap acrylic paint to seal the foamboard. We're getting there..........

            Thanks again for stopping in, and all your fine comments are greatly appreciated. All C, C, ideas and Abuse welcome......

            Prost
            Allen
            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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            • minitnkr
              Charter Rabble member
              • Apr 2018
              • 7551
              • Paul
              • Dayton, OH USA

              #66
              Looking fine Allen. Was thinking the off cuts as a pile of commissar's book burning or cut to be Irma or MP40 clips showing crew holdout to last bullet. Ravings before first cuppa.

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              • Neil Merryweather
                SMF Supporters
                • Dec 2018
                • 5199
                • London

                #67
                I know this is German but do you really have to be SO precise with the berm cobbles?
                It's going to look great when it's done. I like the idea of the civilian wondering.

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                • rtfoe
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 9099

                  #68
                  The street base is looking good Allen similar to a "kueh lapis" layered cake. The cobble stones remind me of the peas I used for mine. It never dawned on me to use foam for it even after I had used Faller foam brick detailed plates for my Hold until Relieved dio.
                  Once you've sealed it with the acrylic paint then the fun continues with dirt and debris.

                  Cheers,
                  Wabble

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                  • Neil Merryweather
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                    • Dec 2018
                    • 5199
                    • London

                    #69
                    And aren't cobbles actually longer and laid end on, rather than cubes?
                    Looking at the original picture I'm sure I spotted some rectangular ones laid on their sides....

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                    • Jim R
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15735
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #70
                      That looks good Allen. Shame about all the extra work , all for 2 mm. Still worth it and it's what this hobby is so often about - correcting cock- ups

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                      • Allen Dewire
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 4741
                        • Allen
                        • Bamberg

                        #71
                        Originally posted by minitnkr
                        Looking fine Allen. Was thinking the off cuts as a pile of commissar's book burning or cut to be Irma or MP40 clips showing crew holdout to last bullet. Ravings before first cuppa.
                        Thanks Paul and they are some ideas to ponder. I would imagine that after the last 75mm was fired, the crew would bail and retreat. I know I wouldn't hang around with just an MP-40 with red hordes coming at me...

                        Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                        I know this is German but do you really have to be SO precise with the berm cobbles?
                        It's going to look great when it's done. I like the idea of the civilian wondering.
                        Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                        And aren't cobbles actually longer and laid end on, rather than cubes?
                        Looking at the original picture I'm sure I spotted some rectangular ones laid on their sides....
                        Sorry Mr. Merryweather, but it's a bad habit of mine. Trying to be too precise that is. Cobblestones for the most part were rectangular and laid longwise. There were square ones that were used for fillers on row ends, lining streetcar tracks and for ringing sewer covers and the like. I have some of those too, to be placed about. I think I have the perfect civilian figure in the stash too Neil...

                        Originally posted by rtfoe
                        The street base is looking good Allen similar to a "kueh lapis" layered cake. The cobble stones remind me of the peas I used for mine. It never dawned on me to use foam for it even after I had used Faller foam brick detailed plates for my Hold until Relieved dio.
                        Once you've sealed it with the acrylic paint then the fun continues with dirt and debris.

                        Cheers,
                        Wabble
                        I don't think you would want to eat this Wabble. I remember your build with the peas well. Didn't you have a prob with bugs or something afterwards? Foamboard is really cool and I am having some fun learning how to use it. I can't wait to start slinging dirt around on it...

                        Originally posted by Jim R
                        That looks good Allen. Shame about all the extra work , all for 2 mm. Still worth it and it's what this hobby is so often about - correcting cock- ups
                        Thanks Jim and you are so correct there. Being retired now, does give me the chance to fix my brain farts. Maybe I will also learn to do it right the first time too...LOL!!!


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                        As Neil said, there were square and rectangular cobbles used, as well as some other debris...

                        Prost
                        Allen
                        Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                        • scottie3158
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          • Paul
                          • Holbeach

                          #72
                          Looking mighty fine dude.

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                          • Si Benson
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 3572

                            #73
                            Solid work so far Mr D, this is coming along at quite the pace sir…..and very nicely too :smiling4:

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                            • Mini Me
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 10711

                              #74
                              Yeah, and all the adjectives what the others used for me as well. Great stuff and glad to see you are getting on well with the cobbles once they were sorted out dimensionally.

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                              • JR
                                • May 2015
                                • 18273

                                #75
                                Loving it Dude 1, just loving it .

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