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  • Allen Dewire
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 4741
    • Allen
    • Bamberg

    #1

    Defending the Hauptstadt...Berlin '45...

    Taking a small break from my 1/2 track build due to a touch of resin lung and being too cold to use the AB, I've been reading 'Panzers in Berlin, 1945'. It's a really fascinating picture story of the defense of the Hauptstadt in 1945. Cheap, it wasn't, but worth every penny of the price. Loads of interesting pics and a lot of the history too. It's from Panzerwrecks,

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    I have decided to re-create a scene from the book. It shouldn't be a long, drawn-out affair as the idea was quite simple and it keeps the dio small to boot. This is what I'm shooting for,
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    A Panther Ausf. D that was buried at an intersection and able to shoot down 3 main streets to fend off the attacking red hoards (sorry JR). I will post up the background and location info when I start the build. The build will be based on a dirt-cheap Panther D kit I snagged off evilbay. I will only be using about 1/2 of it......The kit,

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    The destructions and the sprues of it,

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    I had to download a copy as I bought the kit without a box or destructions..........And what I will be using from the kit,

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    The driver's and radio operator's hatch plate will be used as a template for scratchy as well as the exhaust pipe. The middle piece in the rear deck will be removed and scratchy plates will be substituted. I have about 50 Panther rounds that will need to be cut and then drilled out to make empty shell casings. That should be a fun job!!! Construction should start in a few days, or maybe sooner if it stays cold like it is now. All C, C, and Abuse welcome and have a good week...

    Prost
    Allen
    Life's to short to be a sheep...
  • Andy the Sheep
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2019
    • 1864
    • Andrea
    • North Eastern Italy

    #2
    Very interesting project, Allen.
    Sorry, no Abuse up to now....:flushed::tongue-out3:

    Andrea

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    • stillp
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      • Nov 2016
      • 8097
      • Pete
      • Rugby

      #3
      That seems like a cunning plan to build a tank without having to paint wheels or do tracks!
      Pete

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      • Jim R
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        • Apr 2018
        • 15737
        • Jim
        • Shropshire

        #4
        Good idea Alan. You'll need to scratch a lot of bricks and shell cases.

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        • adt70hk
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          • Sep 2019
          • 10422

          #5
          Cool!!!

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          • scottie3158
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            • Apr 2018
            • 14216
            • Paul
            • Holbeach

            #6
            Allen,
            Chair pulled up and waiting with eager anticipation.

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            • Allen Dewire
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 4741
              • Allen
              • Bamberg

              #7
              Wow, thanks for the interest Guys,
              Originally posted by Andy the Sheep
              Very interesting project, Allen.
              Sorry, no Abuse up to now....:flushed::tongue-out3:

              Andrea
              I hope so. Don't worry Andrea, there will be some abuse once I get going...

              Originally posted by stillp
              That seems like a cunning plan to build a tank without having to paint wheels or do tracks!
              Pete
              Shhhh Pete!!! Don't let the cat out of the bag Sir!!!

              Originally posted by Jim R
              Good idea Alan. You'll need to scratch a lot of bricks and shell cases.
              Thanks Jigs and I will have to do some bricks. I have a sprue of 96 Takom Panther shells from the stash. I forgot to take a pic Jim. They will need to be cut off, drilled out and stamped on the bottom with a punch to make the empty shells. Henry Ford time, I think...

              Originally posted by adt70hk
              Cool!!!
              I certainly hope so my friend. I need a plastic fix...

              Originally posted by scottie3158
              Allen,
              Chair pulled up and waiting with eager anticipation.
              Just stay outta the fridge till I start Bro!!! Then everything will be fine...

              Prost
              Allen
              Life's to short to be a sheep...

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              • Mickc1440
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 4779

                #8
                Count me in Allen to the rapidly growing rabble

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                • Valeron
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                  • Jan 2022
                  • 944
                  • Mike
                  • St Albans

                  #9
                  Looks like a great topic to reproduce. I'll be watching

                  Mike

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                  • Tim Marlow
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18931
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stillp
                    That seems like a cunning plan to build a tank without having to paint wheels or do tracks!
                    Pete
                    Exactly what I though….the lengths some blokes will go to…..should be good though.

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                    • JR
                      • May 2015
                      • 18273

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Andy the Sheep
                      Very interesting project, Allen.
                      Sorry, no Abuse up to now....:flushed::tongue-out3:

                      Andrea
                      Not yet Andrea

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                      • minitnkr
                        Charter Rabble member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 7551
                        • Paul
                        • Dayton, OH USA

                        #12
                        OK, can you imagine the carnage at the other end of the three streets as a result of all those rounds. I wonder if they just ran out as the turret looks unmarked. Great dio. idea. You'll kill this......and you'll have enough leftover for an early bergepanther.

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                        • Allen Dewire
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 4741
                          • Allen
                          • Bamberg

                          #13
                          Morning everyone,

                          It seems a bout of the Man Flu is kicking my butt at the moment. I feel like crap, but life goes on in Bamberg...

                          Originally posted by Mickc1440
                          Count me in Allen to the rapidly growing rabble
                          Glad to have you Mick and sorry, there won't be any marbling here like on your build though...

                          Originally posted by Valeron
                          Looks like a great topic to reproduce. I'll be watching

                          Mike
                          Thanks Mike. It is a very interesting subject and I hope you will enjoy it...

                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          Exactly what I though….the lengths some blokes will go to…..should be good though.
                          Now Mr. Marlow, you know I love to paint road wheels and make tracks, especially Friuls!!! I can't understand what you and Pete are thinking...

                          Originally posted by John Race
                          Not yet Andrea
                          Easy Dude 2...Has July showed up yet???

                          Originally posted by minitnkr
                          OK, can you imagine the carnage at the other end of the three streets as a result of all those rounds. I wonder if they just ran out as the turret looks unmarked. Great dio. idea. You'll kill this......and you'll have enough leftover for an early bergepanther.
                          I can only wonder myself Paul. You can also see there are some rounds lying about that didn't fire. I'm afraid I won't be able to build anything from the leftover parts. I need the hull to bury this puppy. I could do a supply truck with the road wheels, suspension arms, tracks and other parts in it sometime...


                          The background...

                          An order given on 22 Feb. 1945, created a Panzer company that was to be equipped with 10 Panthers and 12 Pz. IVs. These vehicles were
                          were too damaged to be repaired. The company Krupp-Druckenmüller, in Berlin-Tempelhof, stripped the vehicles of their motors, transmissions, road wheels, suspension and all other usable parts. Remaining was the hull and the turret with main gun. They also patched up the armor and created plates to cover the rear deck and driver's compartment. Some of them were repainted accordingly and some retained their original turret numbers too.

                          Panzerkompanie (bo) Berlin was formed on 24 Feb. 1945, for the defence of the Hauptstadt and were given these 22 Panzers to use. They were to be located and emplaced at key intersections around the 'S-bahn Ring' in the city, with good fields of fire. The (bo) stood for Bodenständig which means immobile in our speak. The tank had a crew of 3 men, commander, gunner, and loader. The turret was manually operated as there were no electrics or motor in the hull. The Panzerkompanie (bo) Berlin was not under the command of a higher authority. The tanks fell under control of the various sector commanders where they were used.

                          Now there were also other various defenses using just tank turrets. These were mounted on steel/wood containers buried in the streets too. Again, with a crew of 3 men, manually operated turret and a bit less ammo storage space. The scene I am depicting is using a Panther D. The other Panther's used had an Ausf. A or G turret mounted on them. The Panther D was used about 4 kms north of the Brandenberg Gate. It was around 500 meters up from the FlaKtower in the Humboldthain park. It was buried at the intersection of Badstraße and Pankstraße and could also fire down Prinzenalle. More info will follow as the build goes along...

                          I haven't started to build the tank yet and decided I would begin this by finding a method of making the expended rounds needed. I figure about 40 should do the trick for the ground. My Takom sprue has 96 rounds on it, so I started with 32 of them,

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                          One sprue attachment point on the bottom, GOOD...2 shells sprued together, NOT SO GOOD...We needed to remove them carefully from each other. I found that if you cut them too close to the attachment point, it leaves a little sunken mark in the casing. You have to cut 2mm away from them. Then you can shave them down with a sharp hobby knife without probs. I had only wished that Takom had made the sprue point on the warhead instead of the casing. Next up was removing the seams on them. They're not 100% round and a tick mis-molded too. We needed to use this,

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                          When using the Voyager scraper, always remember to use the next size up when scraping. If the part fits perfect into the semi-circle, it will scrape the sides more than the seam itself. 3mm is a perfect fit for the casing, so I used 3.5mm to do the job. When done, you can cut off the shell head and drill the casing out. A few mm's deep is enough. I thought I could use my RP Toolz cutter to chop off the shell heads. It won't work. I shimmed the casing in the front to keep it level, but it wiggles side-to-side when you apply down pressure to cut. So, it was back to the nippers to cut them off, very carefully!!! Once done you can drill them and put them aside,

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                          Here, 2 are done and the third is scraped and needs the shell head cut off. A new problem came up when I wanted to use my rivet punch to do the firing pin cap housing on the bottom. The punch is convex and not concave as I had thought. DOH!!!...I will have to use some hollow brass tubing to make the housing. Then I can make the firing pin indent in the middle. A Henry Ford method is not in the cards any time soon. This will be a lot of work, but worth it in the end......One last note, if you attempt this, don't cut the shell head off before you have scraped the shell casing seam lines down. If you do, you will have nothing to hold on to while scraping...Trust me......

                          That's it for now. Niagara Falls won't stop and the head is starting to thump like a disco...Stay healthy and stay safe folks...

                          Prost
                          Allen
                          Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                          • Allen Dewire
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 4741
                            • Allen
                            • Bamberg

                            #14
                            Evening again everyone,

                            Starting to feel a bit better and have been occupying my time by working the table. It's still too cold to hissy and right now, it's snowing outside...While pondering a new Henry Ford method for the shells, I decided to build the hull and then the turret. The kit is straight forward and builds up rather well. There's a bit of flash and a few seam lines to be dealt with, but nothing major. ICM plastic is a bit soft so you have to take care cutting and scraping it. First up was scratching the cover for the driver's compartment. I used the kit piece to trace out one on some 0.30 plastic sheet,

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                            Very easy to do and you only need to sand the round edges to make it fit. It will get 2 handles later. Next was prepping the rear deck for the plates that were used to cover it. These were completely stripped of everything usable to repair other Panthers. Here's what the kit offered for a rear deck,

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                            An easy job to do. Break out the JLC razor saw blade and have at it,

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                            Warning!!! Panther lovers please look away now!!!......3 cuts with the JLC blade held in your fingers did the trick, and.....

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                            you have a convertible rear deck. Do a few measurements and grab more 0.30mm sheet and start cutting. Just don't forget to add the recessed areas behind the turret in your measurement. (Yes, I did add them.......I'm old but not stupid) Now you have this,

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ID:	1189320I have also covered the periscope slots, filled in the headlight holes and the travel lock holder holes too. Glued the driver's flap closed and debated over leaving the front fender covers on or cutting them off. Most pics show them removed, so that's the route I went. The rear deck plate was 4 plates in total. The two rearmost were hinged and would allow ammo to be loaded and also used an escape route if needed. Quick measurements, some scribing and a cut, gives you this,

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                            I bent the right plate upwards to give the deck a bit of character. Don't forget these tanks were stripped inside and there was access from front to rear. Each plate had 3 simple hinges and two handles for each plate. With some more scratchy, this was the result,

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                            I added the front plate handles and notice that the front fenders are gone too. These mods were pretty much standard on all of the 10 Panthers that Krupp-Druckenmüller made for the Pz. Kp. (bo) Berlin. Here is a pic of another Panther that was dug in,
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                            The hull is a late Ausf. D or early Ausf. A, but the turret is very interesting. It is from a Panther Ausf. G late and manufactured by M.A.N. in March 1945. It features a chin mantlet and if you look closely, you can see the welded-on loops on the turret sides denoting this particular type. I moved on and began to assemble the turret. It went together nicely and the hatches are workable too,

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                            The hatches are closed here and the fit is good all around. And now,

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                            They open easily. Too bad the small arms port plugs were not molded separately as it would have been nice to have one out and hanging on a chain. I need to add the 3 lifting hooks, 2 tiny bits and scratch a cover for the commander's cupola. My Olga Olfa to the rescue for cutting a disk out. Lastly will be adding the barrel and the mantlet......

                            All the scratchy was easy and straightforward to do. You just need some 0.30 plastic sheet for the plates, 0.10 sheet and 0.30 rod for the hinges and a good straight edge for the scribing and cutting...

                            That's it for tonight. I hope to do more over the weekend as I am feeling better and the Mojo is soaring. Thanks for looking in and all nonsense, good or bad, is most welcome as are any questions you may have. Have a good weekend!!!...

                            Prost
                            Allen
                            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                            • Mickc1440
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 4779

                              #15
                              Great progress Allen, lovely clean scratchery.

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