Valentine Mk 1 1/35 scale AFV CLUB AF 35178.

[Jim R]

That's a very useful SBS of how the base is progressed.
I was going to say barrel up but having read David's post I reserve judgement :rolling:

[JR]

That's a very useful SBS of how the base is progressed.
I was going to say barrel up but having read David's post I reserve judgement :rolling:

Thanks Jim, your not the only one either, going to to have mine as down now.:nerd:

[Si Benson]

I’d go for down as well John. My mechanical mind says so and I tend not to argue with it much these days :tongue-out:

That base is looking very good :thumb2:

[Guest]

without some sort of break on the traverse ring surly it would be looking down going by weight first

Tank turrets are fairly well-balanced, else they become hard to traverse on an incline, so I wouldn’t think it’s implausible for this one to have its gun barrel up into the air. And there will be a turret lock that secures it in whatever position the turret is in when it’s applied, but I admit it would be odd for that to be engaged with the turret at about 10 o'clock rather than at 12 or 6.

[scottie3158]

I would say down as the clutch on the traverse box would have slipped given the weight and momentum of the turret/barrel.

[minitnkr]

Down, w/o knowing traverse mechanics I'd imagine so due to age & Russian tendency to simplest solution.

[Guest]

Russian tendency to simplest solution.

This is a British tank, though, so almost certainly the opposite is true

Years ago, I was talking to someone about the turret hatch on the early Crusader tanks, which sort of slides horizontally backwards. I mentioned that this seemed a pretty good idea, but a kind of peculiarly British-engineered solution as well, and wondered why no other tanks used it. “Because,” he replied, “the catch holding that hatch open is also British-engineered.”

Anyway, I maintain that the barrel up will be more interesting for the diorama, which you can call artistic licence if it turns out to be impossible to have that way IRL

[JR]

I’d go for down as well John. My mechanical mind says so and I tend not to argue with it much these days :tongue-out:

That base is looking very good :thumb2:

I bow to your superior mechanical mind Si, so thank you.

Tank turrets are fairly well-balanced, else they become hard to traverse on an incline, so I wouldn’t think it’s implausible for this one to have its gun barrel up into the air. And there will be a turret lock that secures it in whatever position the turret is in when it’s applied, but I admit it would be odd for that to be engaged with the turret at about 10 o'clock rather than at 12 or 6.

Think this up or down is my fault for not saying why the tank is actually in the water. My idea is it has been blown, or turned away from the explosion ( see the hole on the high land ) and landed thus. Causing the crew to abandon it.

I would say down as the clutch on the traverse box would have slipped given the weight and momentum of the turret/barrel.

Thanks Paul.

[JR]

Down, w/o knowing traverse mechanics I'd imagine so due to age & Russian tendency to simplest solution.

Thanks Paul.

This is a British tank, though, so almost certainly the opposite is true

Years ago, I was talking to someone about the turret hatch on the early Crusader tanks, which sort of slides horizontally backwards. I mentioned that this seemed a pretty good idea, but a kind of peculiarly British-engineered solution as well, and wondered why no other tanks used it. “Because,” he replied, “the catch holding that hatch open is also British-engineered.”

Anyway, I maintain that the barrel up will be more interesting for the diorama, which you can call artistic licence if it turns out to be impossible to have that way IRL

An interesting reply, thanks .

[JR]

Well apart from doing some work on the base, adding some tuffs of long grass I've been busy finding out colours for the Valentine. Now you all know I would rather spray in 4 BO, and did, BUT none of the Lend Lease its seems were in green but a SCC 2 Brown. What a nasty looking colour !
So I've been looking for a some what lighter shade as this Valentine will have been outside in the sun and a winter maybe two.
Just finished stripping it down , it even removed the metal primer and black . Once washed and dried I will start again.
In the famous words of Arnie " I'll be back "

[Guest]

SCC 2 Brown. What a nasty looking colour !

You think so? It’s a kind of milk-chocolaty brown, that IMHO looks not bad at all. But maybe that’s because I like milk chocolate

[JR]

You think so? It’s a kind of milk-chocolaty brown, that IMHO looks not bad at all. But maybe that’s because I like milk chocolate :smiling3:

Looks more dark to me lol

[Guest]

I’m basing that description on the colour chips in Mike Starmer’s books, which are actual model paint mixed to match the real paint. If you want, I can look up the mixes he recommends.

[JR]

I’m basing that description on the colour chips in Mike Starmer’s books, which are actual model paint mixed to match the real paint. If you want, I can look up the mixes he recommends.

Hi, well I've got some chocolate brown ! and some lighter browns. I'm thinking as It's been abandoned for several seasons the paint might well have faded somewhat .
Now if you have some mixes from one of his books that would be great, I shall look fwd to seeing them :thumb2:.Of course I'm using AK 3 rd gen but having an idea on the colour would be great .

[Scratchbuilder]

Wobble,
I seem to be detecting a theme here, if the driving is so bad in the Russian Army I can reccomend a good driving school 'You Crash 'Em - We Pass 'Em'....

Base looks really good, you had me worried when I saw the WWS bottle (ok for rail layouts), but then you explained it was for your diluted pva, I cancelled Matron....

Cheers

Wibble