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  • adt70hk
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    • Sep 2019
    • 10426

    #1

    1/35 DAK figures & some 1/72 munchkins......

    Hi all

    So as you know I'm dong a North African Vignette/diorama for the SimonT GB (link HERE) and I've finished the tank. Now onto the figures......

    I've only ever painted 1/72 before and pretty badly at that and so I thought I'd do them as a separate thread, after Rick sort of suggested it. Hope that's ok.

    I plan to use the specially patented 'Marlow Method' as described HERE, albeit I've already had one idea on a slight deviation and another deviation enforced one due to my incompetence.......anyone would think I had some kind of idea at what I was doing....... :disappointed2:

    As for the 1/72 munchkins to go with them, more about later.

    Run out of time tonight to post pics, so watch out for the morning update.

    ATB.

    Andrew
  • adt70hk
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    • Sep 2019
    • 10426

    #2
    Hi all

    So as promised some pictures.

    Once I'd filled the atrocious ejector pin marks they got a coat of Vallejo primer - mostly the light grey with a few drops of back to darken it up a bit. Then, during the week, as per Tim's instructions a liberal coat of 50/50 Vallejo Glaze medium 73.596 and Game Colour Black Wash 73.201, although I think I might have been a bit heavy handed in places.

    The various items of kit also got the same treatment, as did the 1/72 munchkins aka two Revell Pak 40 crews.

    As time Tim said in his thread, it does really bring the figure to life and also makes it easier to "read" the figures. Quite remarkable. :smiling: :surprised:

    I have just just started doing the base flesh coats but will hold of sharing pics until I've made some more progress.

    ACW as usual.

    ATB.

    Andrew

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    From this........

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    .......onto this......

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    ....to this.....

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    • Tim Marlow
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      • Apr 2018
      • 18931
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #3
      Great start on these Andrew. The 1/35s have come up well, good to see tropical hats as well..
      Nice detail on those Revell gun crews. Are they hard plastic?
      I’ll be following with interest.

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      • Neil Merryweather
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        • Dec 2018
        • 5199
        • London

        #4
        God those Tamiya DAK bring back memories- my first ever 1-35 tank, the PZII wow!
        I shall be watching with interest- I somehow missed the black glaze part of Tim's method - works well!

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        • adt70hk
          SMF Supporters
          • Sep 2019
          • 10426

          #5
          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
          Great start on these Andrew. The 1/35s have come up well, good to see tropical hats as well..
          Nice detail on those Revell gun crews. Are they hard plastic?
          I’ll be following with interest.
          Hi Tim

          Thanks, I really was very surprised how well the black glaze worked and it makes such a difference. I am going to make use of at least one tropical hat to break it up a bit.

          As for the Revell figures....there n lies a lesson....

          They're actually a rebox of an Italeri kit (LINK) but muggins here didn't realise that at the time and didn't check the review of the Revell version (LINK). If muggins had checked the reviews he would have realised the Revell offering was made of soft plastic, think Airfix figure soft.......if I put my mind to it I could actually bend the barrel around in a circle..... :surprised: :surprised:

          As for detail....It the most mixed bag I've come across in a single kit......some really nice detail for this scale, plus some REALLY bad moulding......as you'll see below.

          ATB.

          Andrew

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          The best - three other pairs are close to this level

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          The worst.......

          Mr stumpy hand.....

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          Looks okay at first glance but that is the worlds most misshapen shelll...

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          • adt70hk
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            • Sep 2019
            • 10426

            #6
            Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
            God those Tamiya DAK bring back memories- my first ever 1-35 tank, the PZII wow!
            I shall be watching with interest- I somehow missed the black glaze part of Tim's method - works well!
            Neil

            It takes me back a bit too. The kit is almost as old as me.......:sad::sad:

            The black glaze does work a treat doesn't it. As for the figures I'll try not to let you down.

            Thanks for stopping by.

            ATB.

            Andrew

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            • Tim Marlow
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              • Apr 2018
              • 18931
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #7
              Hi Andrew, I see what you mean about moulding. To be honest, I thought two of the shell carriers had really badly sculpted rifles....Dont worry too much about the soft plastic. Apparently acrylic stays flexible enough to not flake off. I remember Humbrols flaking off if you sneezed in the next street....

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              • adt70hk
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                • Sep 2019
                • 10426

                #8
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                Hi Andrew, I see what you mean about moulding. To be honest, I thought two of the shell carriers had really badly sculpted rifles....Dont worry too much about the soft plastic. Apparently acrylic stays flexible enough to not flake off. I remember Humbrols flaking off if you sneezed in the next street....
                I remember that exact problem when I came back to to hobby. Knowing no better I didn't trust these new-fangled acrylics and so bought enamels..... My British infantry have been flaking ever since......

                Also meant to say thanks for the tip on the Rosemary Series 93 brushes. They really have worked a treat.

                ATB.

                Andrew

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                • adt70hk
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 10426

                  #9
                  Morning all

                  So Friday evening and yesterday I managed to get the flesh done on all of the figures.

                  As you may recall, the 'Marlow Method' calls for a Vallejo Flat flesh 70.955 base coat, a mix of Flat flesh and Light Flesh 70.928 for general highlights and then Light Flesh on its own for final highlights, followed by the Vallejo Flesh Wash 73.204.

                  Well I goofed, and bought Basic Skin Tone 70.815 instead of light flesh. Looking at colour comparisons, mine is a bit darker but not that far off so I got on with it.

                  I also decided to try using Vallejo Brown Sand 70.876 too.

                  I'd seen this recommended elsewhere as a good base skin tone and figured it might work to represent a soldier with a bit of a sun tan - they are in North Africa after all. I also ended up doing a partial suntan on one figure as a test.

                  This 'sun tan' mixes went like this.:

                  "Full" sun tan:
                  • Base Coat: Vallejo Brown Sand 70.876
                  • General highlight: Mix of Brown Sand 70.876 & Flat flesh 70.955
                  • Final highlight: Flat flesh 70.955

                  "Partial" sun tan:
                  • Base Coat: Mix of Brown Sand 70.876 & Flat flesh 70.955
                  • General highlight: Flat flesh 70.955
                  • Final highlight: Flat flesh 70.955 and Basic Skin Tone 70.81


                  For the Pak 40 crew I used Tim's original method.

                  On the whole I think they worked well well, although the wash on the commander looks a bit heavy. That said I've got to remember it won't be looked at under an optivisor or the scrutiny of a Digital SLR and also remember this is my first attempt at this scale. - the Sistine Chapel wasn't painted in a day.

                  In his case I'll wait until I have the uniform painted to see if he blends in a bit.......either that or I'll just pretend he has VERY bad skin condition.!! :smiling5:

                  I don't have a proper wet palette, so I used a plastic container, kitchen sponge and some grease proof paper, as I've seen demo'd elsewhere. It might not work as well as the proper stuff Tim uses, but I did a test a couple of weeks ago and the paint was still workable after a week. If I take to this figure painting malarkey, I'll get some of the proper stuff.

                  Anyway enough jabber and onto the pictures below.....

                  ACW

                  Andrew

                  PS I love the Rosemary Series 93 brushes Tim recommended.

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                  My weapons of war......

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                  The three across the middle is what you need to look at. This was taken outside in proper light with my digital SLR so the colour is almost perfect match to real life....

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                  Tim's colour palette

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                  'Full' tan on right, 'partial' on left.

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                  Full tan....

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                  Pak 40 crew (missing three who were AWOL for the photo shoot!)

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                  • Si Benson
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 3572

                    #10
                    Coming along really well Andrew :thumb2:

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                    • Jim R
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15737
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #11
                      Hi Andrew
                      Coming on very well. Very interesting to see the colours used and to see how you're working.
                      Jim

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                      • Tim Marlow
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                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18931
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #12
                        Looks good to me. They have come to life really nicely. Nothing wrong with mixing up the paint palette , by the way, I do it a lot as well.....if you are doing several figures it’s good to get in some variety. Stops them looking like clones, and the wash ties them all together so none of them stand out.
                        Your home made wet palette is fine as well. I used one like this for a couple of years, and still do for metallics. Only thing I’d say is that if you clip down the size of the baking parchment so it fits flat on the sponge you’ll find it easier to use. The ridges can then be smoothed out and the whole surface will be evenly hydrated.....

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                        • Neil Merryweather
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                          • Dec 2018
                          • 5199
                          • London

                          #13
                          great start Andrew

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                          • adt70hk
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 10426

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Si Benson
                            Coming along really well Andrew :thumb2:
                            Thanks Si. Very much appreciated. Hope all is well with you?


                            Originally posted by Jim R
                            Hi Andrew
                            Coming on very well. Very interesting to see the colours used and to see how you're working.
                            Jim
                            Thanks Jim for stopping by. Glad you like it and it has been an interesting exercise for me, which so far I've been enjoying.


                            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                            Looks good to me. They have come to life really nicely. Nothing wrong with mixing up the paint palette , by the way, I do it a lot as well.....if you are doing several figures it’s good to get in some variety. Stops them looking like clones, and the wash ties them all together so none of them stand out.
                            Your home made wet palette is fine as well. I used one like this for a couple of years, and still do for metallics. Only thing I’d say is that if you clip down the size of the baking parchment so it fits flat on the sponge you’ll find it easier to use. The ridges can then be smoothed out and the whole surface will be evenly hydrated.....
                            Hi Tim, thanks for stopping by, I'm glad you like it.

                            Out of interest, how damp should the sponge be?

                            I've gone for very damp, so that whilst there isn't any standing water in the box, as soon as you press the sponge the water comes out and stands around the edges. Is that about right?

                            Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                            great start Andrew
                            Neil

                            Thanks very much I'm glad you like them.




                            Thanks again all for your support it is very much appreciated.

                            All the best.

                            Andrew

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                            • john i am
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                              • Apr 2012
                              • 4019

                              #15
                              They look great.

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