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  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #106
    Originally posted by Dave Ward
    I don't normally post CAD renders,
    You seen the new CAD renders of the 1/32 Italeri Tornado GR4? They look rather nice indeed

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    • Dave Ward
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 10549

      #107
      Alan,
      CAD renders can look startling - but it's how it translates into plastic that will really count. I once spent a week creating a 3D CAD model of a 5 cylinder diesel engine - totally spurious - as a concept ( cutting & pasting a 4 cylinder engine ). It was rejected as being too expensive, but our smart salesmen illicitly showed it to some customers, who promptly wanted to order some! Quite a stink about who'd shown the CAD rendering!!!
      Dave

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      • Guest

        #108
        To be fair, how is showing a CAD rendering different from showing announced box art without any titles etc. on, as you have done a number of times? Neither is a guarantee that the model will actually be produced. (Think back about 25 years: one of AFV Club’s very first announcements had been a YPR-765, including a picture of a model of it — I’m looking at a flyer that includes it right now, but unfortunately it’s undated, though I keep it in a pile with Verlinden flyers dated 1991. It only took them ten years or more to actually release it …)

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        • Guest

          #109
          Nowadays the ‘renderings’ will actually be driving the machines that mill the moulds, so you can be relatively sure that the model of the model is accurate.

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          • Dave Ward
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #110
            Jakko,
            The post title is 'Spots on the Internet' as such it's just what makers choose to put up for information. As to the actual production of a model - again, it's dependent on what the makers say, there's no guarantees, possibly just an intent.
            As to not generally posting CAD renders, that's just my personal bias I believe CAD renders are easier to produce than boxart done by an artist..................
            Dave

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            • Guest

              #111
              Originally posted by Dave Ward
              As to not generally posting CAD renders, that's just my personal bias I believe CAD renders are easier to produce than boxart done by an artist..................
              I’m not sure about ‘easier’, but definitely more emotive, engaging and contextual.
              Posting a render from a mould model seems lazy.

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              • Dave Ward
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 10549

                #112
                Chris,
                CAD renderings are only as accurate as the information used to create them - OK modern aircraft/tanks will be produced using 3D CAD software, so they should be accurate. How about a WWII aircraft, say a Macchi Folgore?. You would need all the external engineering drawings, and all of those to the correct production issue, then these converted to 3D data, then all the parts assembled by computer - very difficult. It's more likely to be hand measured from a museum piece or surviving parts, or at the best a 3D scan. 3D CAD is a great tool, but if you're depending on old paper drawings, then great care ( = time = money ) has to be taken.
                Dave

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                • Dave Ward
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 10549

                  #113
                  The Trumpeter and HobbyBoss websites are both still down (2 weeks + ), but they have posted on their Facebook page - 'coming soon'
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                  I had to look this up - it's an indigenous Chinese design..........................
                  The link is to a preview of the IBG 1/32 PZL-11c - available late February/early March - oddly, IBG posted this link on their Facebook page, even though it's not by them! It's over 9 mins long - the engine detail looks particularly good!
                  PZL Preview
                  Dave

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                  • yak face
                    Moderator
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 13853
                    • Tony
                    • Sheffield

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Dave Ward
                    The Trumpeter and HobbyBoss websites are both still down (2 weeks + ), but they have posted on their Facebook page - 'coming soon'
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                    I had to look this up - it's an indigenous Chinese design..........................
                    The link is to a preview of the IBG 1/32 PZL-11c - available late February/early March - oddly, IBG posted this link on their Facebook page, even though it's not by them! It's over 9 mins long - the engine detail looks particularly good!
                    PZL Preview
                    Dave
                    That pzl p11 looks superb dave , i’m just about to get one of IBGs 1/72 kits and they look excellent too . The Xian y20 is a great choice of subject too , although it might not be a big seller outside the domestic market?

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                    • Dave Ward
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 10549

                      #115
                      On the Zvezda Facebook page - boxart & assembly pics etc of their upcoming 1/35 Su-122Click image for larger version

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                      Looks pretty good - It'll be interesting to see the price - the MiniArt versions begin at £30+, and unless you really want a full interior, then the Zvezda model should be a good alternative ( not even considering the ancient Tamiya version! )
                      Dave

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                      • wotan
                        SMF Supporters
                        • May 2018
                        • 1150

                        #116
                        Dave

                        I have been considering getting back to building some armour and this looks to me like a nice place to start. However do you, or does anyone else, know if there are any after market tracks, barrels etc available for this tank. Are the tracks the same as the T-34?

                        John

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                        • Dave Ward
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 10549

                          #117
                          John,
                          I'm assuming it uses the same running gear as the Zvezda T-34/85 - which has link and length tracks ( along with a little jig to help assemble them ), but if you want individual links, thenClick image for larger version

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                          The Zvezda model isn't actually available yet, so, aftermarket parts aren't around yet.
                          Dave

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                          • Allen Dewire
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 4741
                            • Allen
                            • Bamberg

                            #118
                            Afternoon Mr. B,

                            First, my sincerest apologies for not recognising who you were exactly. I hope all is well in Quebec and do you still have Don Corleone on the shelf???

                            Secondly, Friul makes a set of metal tracks (#ATL-09) as well as Accurate Armor (AA-T41 or 44). I also know that Model Kasten make tracks for the T-34 series chassis. Aber, RB and others make barrels for the SU-122. Miniart makes an early 122 kit (#35181) without an interior and goes for around $50 on your side of the pond. As Dave said, the Tamiya is still around too. HTHs.....

                            Prost
                            Allen
                            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                            • wotan
                              SMF Supporters
                              • May 2018
                              • 1150

                              #119
                              Danke Herr Dewire. Since I am a cheapskate I think I will go for the Tamiya golden oldie

                              Dave thanks to you too. I really want to find a quick build so that I can play around with the bit I enjoy most, painting and decorating.

                              John PS Don corleone is fit and well on the shelf.

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                              • Dave Ward
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 10549

                                #120
                                Why not try this?Click image for larger version

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                                New tooling - I've seen it for under £23......................
                                Dave

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