What is next?

[Guest]

If I can add my ten pence worth gents,

Q1- I would just set up the poll straight away and let it run till around June 1st

Q2- 3 months is fine by me , being a weekend modeller it still gives me and others still time to work on our own stuff , as for how many gb we do a year I`m happy to do 3 maybe 4 at a push , to a degree I agree with a few of the other lads - this gb has been great fun but we don`t wan`t to over load it with to many , its nice to know a month or whatever before what we will be making so we can plan , with to many we will be jumping from one to the next straight away taking away the fun away and in my eyes numbers will go down big time.

Q-3 with the SIG a bit like what I`ve mentioned above - time , saying that if it was something I had a great interest in I could be in , but I would no doubt blow out of one of the gb`s ,

Sorry to be so negative Graham just giving you my honest opinions

Richy

[Guest]

I'm new to this forum, have difficulty in understanding and writing English, and therefore often avoid participating.

I know I like this forum and know that I really enjoyed participating in this GB.

I understand that the forum is not just for those who, like me, like to build model airplanes of WWII. There are those who like more of WWI, post-war, ships, tanks, etc..

So, why not make GB by subject:

War of the Pacific, Mediterranean, Normandy, the Gulf War, Korea, Vietnam.

Any of these issues would allow the participation of all or almost all modelers.

What is a SIG.

[stona]

Hi Antonio, SIG is a "special interest group". I think your idea of less defined group builds has some merit. It would,however, make me less likely to build something outside my normal interest (like you WW2 aircraft). If the build was of, say, an armoured vehicle I would probably join in and depend on the armour builders for help and advice. I would need it!

I think the idea of seperating the GB from the rest of the forum is a good one. I'm sure noone wants to even appear to put anyone off by dominating posts. I'll build anything in any timescale for a bit of fun. I have built a model for this GB faster than I've ever done but have been lucky with work commitments etc.

Cheers

Steve

[John]

Interesting idea John. Does that mean that anyone not requesting access would not see the posts in 'What's New' and such?

That's right, or there's another way, I set it up at the beginning of this GB but because I've never used it before I didn't mention it, if you look here http://www.scale-models.co.uk/groups/group-build.html I created a group called Group Build, but it should have been called GB FW190 and the next one GB Mary Rose or what ever is decided we do, also because it's not part of the main forum you could create a new GB every day if you wanted and unless someone choose to be a member of that group they couldn't see the "new group messages"

[spanner570]

I agree something needs to be done to get some sort of balance vis a vis the G/B and 'normal' posts, but I am dead against ANY form of segregation.....You can't do or look at this, unless you ask! No thank you.

People might not be interested in the G/B or that other thing but might still want to look to see different techniques. What is being suggested would stop direct and free access to this particular type of thread, would it not?

This Forum has a good reputation for open and even discussion of any subject at any time and to make something sound to the casual visitor like a closed shop, no matter how small is wrong, and is not what I joined Scale Models to see.

Perhaps I'm over reacting but I feel very, very strongly about what I fear might happen and how any newcomer might view this proposed idea if it is put into practice.

Ron

[John]

That's why creating a "group" for each build would be better, you create a public group and anyone can view it, You don't even have to join it if you don't want, just view the posts

[Ian M]

Hi António. The Idea you suggest is sort of the idea benind the special Interest group, I think.

The GB (Group Build) the idea is to all build the same subject in which ever form you choose. This time it was FW190 and what a mixed batch it has given.

The SIG (special Interest Group) Build would most likely be on a theme where you choose the subject to be build.

If for an example John said the first SIG build the theme was "The war in the Pacific", then you would have free hands to build what ever you like, as long as it was in that theater of war. It could be any thing from the attack on Pearl harbor to the battle for Iwajima. Tank, aircraft, boat a diorama with 100 figures or just a handfull of brave soles raising the flag.

The other possibility behind SIG could of end up as tanks, aircraft, boats or civillian. Rather depends on how and who calls the shots.

[Ian M]

I got to agree with Ron on that. Closed forums are not very welcoming to new commers.

How do the other forums you mentioned do it John? Are they closed or open to all?

[Guest]

That's why creating a "group" for each build would be better, you create a public group and anyone can view it, You don't even have to join it if you don't want, just view the posts

How exactly would this work John? Sorry but I really know little about how forums are set up.

[John]

How exactly would this work John? Sorry but I really know little about how forums are set up.

I'm not 100% sure myself as I've never used groups, but if you go here http://www.scale-models.co.uk/groups/ you will see there is already a group that is in a GB FW190 category, so I think everyone that wanted to join would create their own group and assign it to the correct category and that's it, I think, if people want to view them they are free to or if you want to follow a specific user or group of users you can join that group, but I'm not sure what other benefits there are to joining.

[Guest]

Right. From what I have seen so far, it looks just like a mini forum and may be the solution to the problem of flooding the 'New Posts' or any other part of the main forum.

Ron, I totally understand and agree that there should not be segregation. However, segregation would be a system that only allowed certain people to see certain parts of the forum. By setting up public groups, anyone can join them if they should wish to. They do not have to have permission and they do not have to ask. This is not segregation but organisation and I think it fits in well with the principles of the forum by making things like the group builds separate but still part of the whole thing with no chance of overpowering the main forum.

John. Is there a way of deleting a group? I am thinking along the lines of setting up a few trials but not if they cannot be removed to clean up afterwards.

[John]

Yes you can add and delete as much as you want

[AlanG]

3 months is fine in my opinion. It gives people that may not be able to devote alot of time to a build enough time so that they can join the GB's.

As for the next subject. We have done an aircraft this time and i have noticed that some armour guys have joined in. Maybe we can return the favor and do an armour build next time and in doing so, move into a build area i have never ventured into before.

[Guest]

Hi folks, hope you dont mind me adding that I would like to join in a GB under the SIG idea as I'm not a flyer or swimmer... lol. (thats if you'll have us) Though I am open to turning my hand to something.

What are the general rules to these GB's, sorry I'm a bit green.

Thanks in advance

Ade

[Guest]

Any member can join in the Group Build, which is currently an aircraft but the next one will not be. We still have to decide what subject will be next. Not sure if we will go with the SIG as yet as the GB seams to be enough for most. As we get nearer to the end of this one, we will poll subjects for the next and go with the majority. The current one is still open and anyone can still have a go even if they have finished one already. No limit to the number of kits.

General, if simple, rules here.