"to do and die"

[Guest]

cheers andy, cheers ron, yeah, it's the first time i've try'd fully cutting up figures. quite hard, but i like it. i like the idea of being able to completely change figures to suit. makes a difference.

[Ian M]

Well you certainly got those bent into shape! I was comparing the pictures of your figures with the photos from the DVD. Looks like you nailed it!

Ian M

[Guest]

cheers Ian, just got to try and nail the surrounding battle area now. not to sure how it's ment to be, might have to use a bit of creative license

[spanner570]

Fair do's Bobby, the figures are really well done with excellent poses.

A little bit of advise...

I wouldn't go down the road of exactitudes, trying to get it exactly like the still images. You might find yourself fiddling about with the diorama and getting frustrated.

Just the soldiers against the concrete of the bunker would be ace on it's own, with perhaps a bit of barbed wire ect., in the forground, so I wouldn't worry too much about the surroundings.

Let it develop and flow and keep it simple.

Here endeth the lesson!! lol

Ron

[Guest]

ha ha, cheers ron. yeah, i think thats how i'm going to approach it. i know already from the artwork i do far to well that try to get things exact can make you work too hard and get frustrated, lol.

[Guest]

after trailing the internet and shops i found it hard to get good barbedwire but being skint and cheap i decided to make my own. then last minute,i found this great stuff in a war games shop called battlefields razorwire ( photo below). quite a long roll of it too, 250cm worth. i used that and some fusewire to work together and make up plenty of barbedwire for the dio to choose from. i also used some twigs tied together to make up some barbwire stands. question tho... does anyone know how the barbedwire rolls would be attached to the bunker roof in real life?

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[spanner570]

Cracking work Bobby, very realistic and good scrounging too!

I have seen photos my son took of bunkers in Normandy and there are things that look like small 'eyelets' let into the concrete roofs and walls at intervals. Could be for cammo netting too perhaps?

We have all seen the German soldiers rolling the stuff out freehand so I reckon it's up to you...

Perhaps someone on here has the deffinitive answer....

Keep those pictures coming.

Ron

[Guest]

bunker wall.

i've spent the weekend getting stuck into my bunker wall for the scene. it all went fine apart from one crazy mistake that almost sent me back to the start. i cut away at the polystrene making the suitable shape and size. glued some thin cut lengths of card to the front ( to get it like the one in my photo's). then covered it in filler. then glued in some bits of 30amp fusewire to make up the metal frame work showing after battle damage. lastly, i started painting it (this is where it almost went wrong). i give the whole thing a spray with primer but straight away it started to melt into the polystrene (ahhhhhh). i stopped painting and left it to settle, then filled in the melted gaps with filler, let it dry, then re-painted it all with acrylic paint by brush. now it seems to be fine. i've painted most of it up. i think it's looking good. i'll give it a wee bit more weathering once i start putting the dio together.

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[spanner570]

You think it's looking good? Bobby, that is one nice bit of concrete!

Very nicely sculptured and painted.

I reckon the 'melt down' has given it a better finish. Nice steelwork too.

Ron

[Guest]

That bunker wall looks amazing Bobby. Very clever work

[tr1ckey66]

Hi Bobby

I sense a real masterpiece brewing! Great work on the concrete

Just a thought (and I may be wrong) but isn't razor wire , as apposed to barbed wire, a more modern invention?

Anyway, fabulous work and I'm looking forward to this immensely.

Paul

[Guest]

hi paul. the wee pack is called razor wire but really it's just thin wire wrapped around wire. does look anything like razor wire or barbed wire really but i think it works.

[Guest]

coming together.

been busy working away on the dio base all week. and it's all coming together now. i used polysterne cut to size and shape for the sand mounds then covered it all in filler. glued the bunker wall down. added rocks, wee bits of fur for grass, bits of brush for reeds and glued down the wooden wire frames with the barbed wire. still got to paint it all up and add all the sand and dirt. and give the wire a weathered look. but you can see how it's all gonna look now.

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[Ian M]

Hey! That looks really good. Not sure about the arm and leg at the very edge of the base though.

Barbed wire. The only good way to get it is to make it!!! Find some electrical wire, the multi strand type and strip it right out and then take two single strands of equal length. Lay one aside. Then take some more single strand and wrap it two times around one of the long wires, fix it with a tiny drop of CA. repeat along the length every cm. yes its boring and time consuming but you can make loads at a time. Trim the ends of the bits you have just tied on to an acceptable length. Now the fun part. Fix the end of the long wire with the barbs to a weight. I use a fishing weigh. Then tie the wire with out barbs on to the same weight..Carefully turn the weight and spin the wires together. Not to tight, you just want them to spin together to hold the barbs.

If You used steel or tinned wire, it will just look like new barbed wire. If you use copper wire, spray it with very thin primer and then rust colours to taste.

Ian M

[Guest]

Ooooo, this is looking nice. Good choice of figures, the poses are just perfect