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  • Dave W
    • Jan 2011
    • 4713

    #31
    Started cleaning up the seams.Then before I knew it I had the scribing tool out.So now I will have to scribe the whole model!.I started with the top of the fuselage where the Phantom has two long spine panels.In the middle of these panels are several small circular panels.These are for access to the fuel pumps.I will have to find a suitable template for these.The Phantom has seven separate fuel tanks in the fuselage under these long panels above and between the engines.Tank no.7 is under the front of the fin.It doesn't hold a lot and wasn't used on the British version of the F4.Last thing I did this evening was apply my favourite Squadron green to the seams.

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    • Guest

      #32
      i take it yours goes together with a huge step on top of the fuse mine does arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh,gonna have to look for a way to put the rings back maybe,

      good luck on yours mate

      mobear

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      • Guest

        #33
        In the Canon forum its compulsory to capture a photograph of a duck...I think building this kit should be compulsory in here. From filling and sanding, to scribing and styrene re-alignment, all skills are there to practice on...

        Danny

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        • Dave W
          • Jan 2011
          • 4713

          #34
          Just read a review of the new Academy F4B.They reckon its superb. Oh how I wish they'd done an F4C.They will probably bring one out when I've finished this old kit!.

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          • Guest

            #35
            I got it as a late Christmas pressie Dave, It looks and feels good...1 piece body, so your green filler wouldnt be needed. They put a in spare sprues of all the payload...(Nice). I would guess its a bit ore expensive than the Revell 4C.

            Danny

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            • Dave W
              • Jan 2011
              • 4713

              #36
              This Phantom is cheap.You get what you pay for as they say.It will still build into a nice model though.Just take a bit of work which I'm happy (!) to do.

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              • Ian M
                Administrator
                • Dec 2008
                • 18271
                • Ian
                • Falster, Denmark

                #37
                A question for you Dave. The heat protection under the tail of the fuselage, Do you recall what they where made off and how they where treated.

                I refer to the "plating that looks like scales". Most kits say paint it black....... Sounds boring.

                Ian M
                Group builds

                Bismarck

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                • Dave W
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 4713

                  #38
                  They were made from titanium and double skinned.Cant remember how they we're finished but they were almost black.The flat panels on the fuselage above them were cut from titanium sheet.The arrestor hook was usually covered in black soot.

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                  • Ian M
                    Administrator
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 18271
                    • Ian
                    • Falster, Denmark

                    #39
                    Thanks for that Dave.

                    I can start to figure out how to paint them.....

                    Ian M
                    Group builds

                    Bismarck

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                    • yak face
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 13849
                      • Tony
                      • Sheffield

                      #40
                      Looks like a fair bit of work dave but i know youll beat it , some great reference in this thread too , cheers tony

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                      • flyjoe180
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 12433
                        • Joe
                        • Earth

                        #41
                        Originally posted by \
                        They were made from titanium and double skinned.Cant remember how they we're finished but they were almost black.The flat panels on the fuselage above them were cut from titanium sheet.The arrestor hook was usually covered in black soot.
                        My research into the US Navy schemes shows they weren't painted, but rather covered in soot as was the arrestor hook. The US engines were notoriously smoky, this being one of the drawbacks of the earlier Phantoms. The F-4S was a redeveloped and enhanced F-4J which went to some lengths to reduce the smoke trails left by the engines. I'm unsure how smoky the RR Speys were.

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                        • Guest

                          #42
                          Dave maybe you can help me either through your experience of the phantom or by checking to see if I am missing something in the instructions (I am needing new glasses )... Ok...The canopy, there are 4 decals on the sheet, 2 of which go onto the F-4D canopy, the pilot and navs names...I cant see any example of the other 2 being used on the F-4C which Im building. The 4 decals all have different names on them so Im assuming 2 go with each version you can build from this kit.....Am I assuming right that there are 2 for each?.. Thanks in advance.

                          Danny

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                          • Dave W
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 4713

                            #43
                            All 4 decals go on the F4D.208 and 209 go on the left side of the canopies and are the aircrews names.The other two,210 and 211 carry the crew chiefs names and go on the right side of the canopies.The F4C has none.

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                            • Guest

                              #44
                              Your the man Dave....appreciated :0)

                              Danny

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                              • Dave W
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 4713

                                #45
                                Tonight I have been mostly scribing panel lines.Ive done most of the fuselage and made a start on the wings.Couldnt wait to finish the wings before i glued them to the model.They are a bit warped but taped to the model theyve straightened up a bit.This kit is made from hard plastic.Which is good because it makes it difficult to scribe too deep.Going to add the intakes then sand off the raised detail next.

                                I've noticed a small problem that needs sorting.The gap at the back of the rear cockpit shouldn't be there.So I'm going to have to fill it with plastic card and cut slots for the canopy hinge arms.

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