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  • SimonT
    • Apr 2018
    • 2824

    #136
    Hi Jim - thanks. It is amazing anyone survived WW1 when you see the old footage

    Spent most of the day working on this - one or two problems but mostly good

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    this is how it is currently looking after a lot of detail painting, dry brushing and the application of pigment across the whole base (this was some stuff I got from Diether Etzel - i think it was designed to replicate a soil type in a particular part of South Africa but it was ideal for this as it is brown with flecks of white in)

    Last thing was adding the water. This is from Precision Ice and Snow. It isn't cheap. This is the first time I have used it. Comes as two clear liquids that you mix together in equal amounts. It is a form of clear silicone rubber. I tinted it with a little of the same base pigment and poured it into the various holes

    Since it is a thin liquid it is of course self levelling, which is great. What I didn't expect was the amount that it creeps

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    I poured directly into the bottom of the hole but as you can see it has crept up the sides.
    Nothing I can do about that - just hope it doesn't look too bad in the end
    On a couple of the smaller holes this was a real problem as it crept up and over the sides of the hole and escaped - stuck some base pigment into the overspill and I think that has stopped it

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    this hole crept all over the place

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    mud applied to the tank

    this is the base earth pigment heaped on then soaked with X20a Tamiya thinners to fix it in place

    there was an unexpected side effect of doing this - the white elements of the earth pigment tended to separate out and sit on the surface which is why there are white dots all over the place. Since it is chalky ground though I think I can get away with that

    the tracks - since this is an abandoned vehicle my reasoning is that the tracks would soon rust so they were painted VJ track primer then a wash with rusty pigment followed by the earth pigment

    the exhaust staining turned out a bit heavy handed - the thinners had not entirely evaporated and the black pigment turned into liquid rather than just a light application of soot. Will try and tone this down today

    you will also notice some grey streaks on the sides of the hull - again due to thinners not totally evaporating (trying to do too much at once) and turning the pigment into 'paint' rather than dust so that will need sorting out as well. I am hoping that my AK streaking brush and thinners will be able to brush it out into a better streaky effect

    Hopefully the water will now be starting to set - takes around 24hrs then 48hrs to fully cure - need to keep the base horizontal until it sets which limits what I can work on
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    • Steven000
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      • Aug 2018
      • 2830
      • Steven
      • Belgium

      #137
      Looking very good Simon! :thumb2:
      That 'precision ice and snow' can be aplied in 1 time or in small layers? I had a 'creep' with 'Vallejo still water' as well...

      Cheers, Steven

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      • SimonT
        • Apr 2018
        • 2824

        #138
        Hi Steven - I just applied it in one pour.
        One hole is about 6mm deep the other it must be at least 12mm.

        It seems to have worked ok.

        It is a cold cure chemical reaction rather than exothermic like you get with resins. So far no signs of shrinkage and no air bubbles

        Have used VJ still water before - it took ages to dry out. This stuff set over night.

        PI&S is not cheap though - £15 for 200ml

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        • Steve Jones
          • Apr 2018
          • 6615

          #139
          I'm glad you put 1 72 in the blog title as it is difficult to remember how small this build really is. The base has worked out really well. You must be very close now:thumb2:

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          • Jim R
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            • Apr 2018
            • 15746
            • Jim
            • Shropshire

            #140
            Hi Simon
            I reckon it is looking very good. You've certainly got the desolation, distruction look of a WW1 battlefield.
            That water is odd stuff. Being silicone it never goes hard, stays rubbery. Looks good though but the way it creeps up sides is a nuisance.
            Jim

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            • SimonT
              • Apr 2018
              • 2824

              #141
              Steve / Jim and anyone else that has been following along - I think it is now finished :thumb2:

              If weather ok tomorrow I shall try and get some piccies outside

              The rubber water is rather good apart from the creep - I shall probably drop PI&S an email and see if they have a way of minimising that

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              • SimonT
                • Apr 2018
                • 2824

                #142
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                a couple of quick snaps taken with my phone last night
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                • SimonT
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 2824

                  #143
                  Morning all, it is just starting to rain but I managed to get outside and quickly snap a few pics before it got too bad

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                  Overall I am fairly happy with it.

                  The rifles and horse vanishing in the mud was a bit annoying and something to watch for in future as was the water creep

                  This must be the largest base I have ever done at 12x10" - normally they are kept small so they fit on the shelf !
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                  • Jim R
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 15746
                    • Jim
                    • Shropshire

                    #144
                    Hi Simon
                    Very nice indeed. Not easy to model mud. Desert is easier I find.
                    Rather appropriate to finish it today.
                    Let us know what precision ice and snow say about the water creep. I have contacted them once and they were really helpful. Whatever the water filled shell craters are very effective.
                    Jim

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                    • scottie3158
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 14225
                      • Paul
                      • Holbeach

                      #145
                      Simon,
                      That is an excellent result as usual you never disappoint.

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                      • Wouter
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 742

                        #146
                        Hi Simon, this is a great scene mate. It really takes you to the muddy battlefields of WWI. Great result and one to be proud of!

                        Cheers

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                        • Steven000
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                          • Aug 2018
                          • 2830
                          • Steven
                          • Belgium

                          #147
                          Nice pics Simon! Successfully finished :thumb2:
                          Kind regards, Steven

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                          • Steve Jones
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 6615

                            #148
                            Great to see this build finished. I have enjoyed watching it all come together. After all the WWI stuff I watched this weekend I can safely say this is a very realistic dio. Well done sir

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                            • SimonT
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 2824

                              #149
                              Jim / Scottie / Wouter / Steven / Steve - thank you all very much

                              Jim - had a reply from PI&S about the water. Basically it is too water like! Capillary action has drawn the fluid into the various crooks and nannies of the base. They suggest sealing the base with matt varnish prior to pouring the water as a possible means of minimising the creep.

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