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  • Neil Merryweather
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    • Dec 2018
    • 5201
    • London

    #331
    Originally posted by Steve Jones
    I'm so sorry to hear about all the troubles Neil. Its such a terrific project I hope it all comes together for you soon.
    Thanks Steve, but it's fine really.
    Let's face it , this one was of my own making- well most of them are, to be fair:rolling:
    And to be honest the relative success of painting the rider has put me in a generally good mood about this one.
    But I still might do the Spitfire before I attempt the Flying Scotsman's kilt!

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    • rtfoe
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      • Apr 2018
      • 9101

      #332
      Neil, I had a bit of hiccup with the site and am late to comment. I too had some difficulty with the horse. They had many variations ranging from dark spots to light spots, pure light grey or with black socks. I did a mixture of airbrushing and hand painting. Sorry you had to strip the paint of yours.
      Here's a link I found that shows some stages of painting the horse. Hope it helps.

      Cheers,
      Richard

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      • BigGreg
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        • Apr 2018
        • 2183

        #333
        Horses are the most difficult to paint... you have the nuances that are already difficult to make.. plus you have the "brilliance" of the hair...the idea of making a Lipizzaner(grey whitish with spots) it's even more difficult... good luck...

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        • Tim Marlow
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #334
          It’s worth remembering that a grey horse has black skin and the hair starts dark and gradually whitens with age. You therefore have a range of colours to choose from. The muzzle must be black though....

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          • Neil Merryweather
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            • Dec 2018
            • 5201
            • London

            #335
            Originally posted by rtfoe
            Neil, I had a bit of hiccup with the site and am late to comment. I too had some difficulty with the horse. They had many variations ranging from dark spots to light spots, pure light grey or with black socks. I did a mixture of airbrushing and hand painting. Sorry you had to strip the paint of yours.
            Here's a link I found that shows some stages of painting the horse. Hope it helps.

            Cheers,
            Richard
            Hey Richard, thanks for that, it helps knowing that even a master like you had problems too!
            I should have stripped it before I painted it really , because I knew I had put too much white primer on. Serves me right, which is why I am taking it so philosophically......
            and thanks for the link, I'm sure it will help

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            • Neil Merryweather
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              • Dec 2018
              • 5201
              • London

              #336
              Originally posted by BigGreg
              Horses are the most difficult to paint... you have the nuances that are already difficult to make.. plus you have the "brilliance" of the hair...the idea of making a Lipizzaner(grey whitish with spots) it's even more difficult... good luck...
              you're SOOO right , Greg

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              • Neil Merryweather
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                • Dec 2018
                • 5201
                • London

                #337
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                It’s worth remembering that a grey horse has black skin and the hair starts dark and gradually whitens with age. You therefore have a range of colours to choose from. The muzzle must be black though....
                interesting, thanks Tim.
                I had just recently seen a grey horse locally and I was struck by the wide variety of markings just on one horse! And I was going to do the muzzle black as I had a dim memory of things being so, but when I referred to the painting the muzzle is white, so I left it alone!
                Time for some more diligent research, I think!

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                • Tim Marlow
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                  • Apr 2018
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                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #338
                  There you go Neil....more than you’ll ever need to know.
                  The greying gene is found in most breeds of horse and has the ability to mask all other colors or patterns, including pinto, appaloosa and roan white patterns. The greying process is similar to that…

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                  • Jason Crausby
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 658

                    #339
                    Sounds like a bit of a trial alright.... it will all be worth it in the end... keep up the good work!
                    Jason.

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                    • Jim R
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15746
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #340
                      Hi Neil
                      Sorry about the horse woes. I am sure you'll get it all sorted. Strange about the Milliput - I too imagined it to be uneffected by anything once fully cured.
                      Jim

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                      • Guest

                        #341
                        I've never attempted a grey/white horse Neil - it just looks too difficult. Sorry to hear about the stripping woes, but I'm sure you'll knock it back into shape.

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                        • Neil Merryweather
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                          • Dec 2018
                          • 5201
                          • London

                          #342
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          There you go Neil....more than you’ll ever need to know.
                          http:tongue-out3:/www.theequinest.co...fiers/greying/
                          fascinating, Tim, thanks

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                          • Neil Merryweather
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                            • Dec 2018
                            • 5201
                            • London

                            #343
                            Thanks ,all, for your concern and sympathy:relieved:

                            Before all the mucking about with the grey horse happened I started to clean up the Historex bit and I found both copies I have were very badly out of register. Grrr.

                            I thought about how I would scratch one and I decided it would be terribly delicate, so I thought I would have a go at 3D printing one on our resin printer at work. It’s very fine so it might be a disaster, but the cost in resin would be minimal so I gave it a try.

                            I first made a digital model by measuring and copying the Historex one. I made it ten times larger then scaled it down, which helps with the resolution.
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                            I printed 2 just in case. With this kind of printer each layer takes a certain time no matter how much you are building, so two are literally the same price as one- and so would ten be if I wanted them. It took an hour and a half. The clear resin gives the best resolution in terms of layer height- 0.025mm

                            Phew! It worked
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                            You have to clip them off the supports whilst it is 'green', and then they get a final cure in UV at 35 degrees for 15 mins.

                            Actually I got the scaling wrong so these were a bit too big, but no probs, I just re-scaled and printed them again.

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                            All I have to do now is not break it when it comes to fitting the reins!

                            thanks again for looking in
                            Neil

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                            • Guest

                              #344
                              The times I could have used those. Skillfull work Neil.

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                              • Steve Jones
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 6615

                                #345
                                Wow! Terrific 3D work. Look forward to seeing them on the horse.

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