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    #91
    Particularly looking forward to the painting Tim.

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    • Mini Me
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      • Jun 2018
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      #92
      Hi Tim, Looking forward to the fig. painting, so lots of info if you please, as you go through the various steps........Came across this photo on the i-net (for ref. only).....made me think of your efforts here.....I guess the "Jerries" were keen on putting these anti-tank guns on anything that moved. Gave me a chuckle anyway. Cheers, Rick H.Click image for larger version

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      • adt70hk
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        #93
        Originally posted by Mini Me
        Hi Tim, Looking forward to the fig. painting, so lots of info if you please, as you go through the various steps........Came across this photo on the i-net (for ref. only).....made me think of your efforts here.....I guess the "Jerries" were keen on putting these anti-tank guns on anything that moved. Gave me a chuckle anyway. Cheers, Rick H.[ATTACH]406943[/ATTACH]
        That looks a tad exposed up there but at least it would allow you to get a hull down position in the right circumstances!

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        • adt70hk
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          #94
          Originally posted by Mini Me
          Hi Tim, Looking forward to the fig. painting, so lots of info if you please, as you go through the various steps........Came across this photo on the i-net (for ref. only).....made me think of your efforts here.....I guess the "Jerries" were keen on putting these anti-tank guns on anything that moved. Gave me a chuckle anyway. Cheers, Rick H.[ATTACH=CONFIG]n1138943[/ATTACH]
          Just occurred to me that if the recoil is a bit on strong side gun and crew could find themselves flying backwards off the roof. In short, rather them than me!

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          • Tim Marlow
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            • Apr 2018
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            • Tim
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            #95
            Originally posted by Peter Day
            Particularly looking forward to the painting Tim.
            Thanks Peter, I’ll probably do the figures first. Quick and dirty faces on these....

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            • Tim Marlow
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              • Apr 2018
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              • Tim
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              #96
              Originally posted by Mini Me
              Hi Tim, Looking forward to the fig. painting, so lots of info if you please, as you go through the various steps........Came across this photo on the i-net (for ref. only).....made me think of your efforts here.....I guess the "Jerries" were keen on putting these anti-tank guns on anything that moved. Gave me a chuckle anyway. Cheers, Rick H.[ATTACH=CONFIG]n1138943[/ATTACH]
              They seem to have stuck those guns on almost anything....though I think that one would struggle to be depressed enough to hit it target. On the other hand, look at all that space for ammo.....
              This makes the little Renault more useable..probably kills its power to weight ratio though....
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              • Lee Drennen
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                • Apr 2018
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                #97
                Tim. Updates looking great

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                • Tim Marlow
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                  • Tim
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Lee Drennen
                  Tim. Updates looking great
                  Thanks Lee, glad you like it. I hope you’re feeling a lot better now......

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                  • Tim Marlow
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • Tim
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                    #99
                    OK, quiet at the back there, we are going to start on the, figures....

                    The figures have been cleaned, assembled, and primed.
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                    Cleaning and assembly is done exactly the same as any other plastic kit. I use a 15a scalpel blade to scrape down seam lines and blemishes and finish off with fine wet and dry (400 down to 3600 grit, used wet). Assembly used Contacta or EVA liquid cement.
                    I always prime figures, especially these, as they will be handled in games. Priming has several advantages to me. It binds well to the figure, making the paint job more robust. It provides a good key for the top coat, and it gives an even colour for the painter to work over. I picked grey for these because WW2 colours are muted and if the paint is slightly translucent, a slight greying out of the top coat can enhance the paint job. Sometimes, for bright coloured figures, I might use white primer. However, I very rarely use black as a primer, because I find it hard to get a decent top coat colour density over it. Some painters swear by it, but I’ve only ever sworn at it.
                    In this case, the primer was Alclad 2 grey primer and microfiller. No real reason for this choice except I have a bottle that has been hanging around for several years I prefer cellulose (lacquer) based primers as I feel they adhere best, so also have Tamiya and Mr Color in stock.

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                    The next stage for me is a black wash to highlight detail on the figure. This is liberally applied with a number 4 round brush. The function of the wash is very similar to a pin wash on armour. It highlights detail and show the discrete
                    areas of the figure. In my case it also makes the figure much easier to read when I’m painting. Even at this point the figure will start to come alive.

                    The wash is made from a 50:50 mix of these two...
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                    The game colour wash is designed just for this sort of use, but the black has a strong pigmentation. The glaze medium therefore “thins” the wash without taking away its useful characteristics. As I understand it, glaze medium is basically colour wash without pigment. You can dilute the wash with water, but if you do you may break down the consistency of the wash, and increase its surface tension. It will not then flow like it should, and could dry blotchy.

                    This part is just a quick insight into my figure painting preparation. There are as many ways to do this as there are painters, but this one is timeworn and works for me. I have been doing this, or something similar, for about thirty years.

                    I know some of you want to see how I do faces....well, that should be tomorrow and over the weekend....

                    Hope it helps, and if you have any questions, just ask away....

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                    • adt70hk
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                      • Sep 2019
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      OK, quiet at the back there, we are going to start on the, figures....

                      The figures have been cleaned, assembled, and primed.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1139121[/ATTACH]

                      Cleaning and assembly is done exactly the same as any other plastic kit. I use a 15a scalpel blade to scrape down seam lines and blemishes and finish off with fine wet and dry (400 down to 3600 grit, used wet). Assembly used Contacta or EVA liquid cement.
                      I always prime figures, especially these, as they will be handled in games. Priming has several advantages to me. It binds well to the figure, making the paint job more robust. It provides a good key for the top coat, and it gives an even colour for the painter to work over. I picked grey for these because WW2 colours are muted and if the paint is slightly translucent, a slight greying out of the top coat can enhance the paint job. Sometimes, for bright coloured figures, I might use white primer. However, I very rarely use black as a primer, because I find it hard to get a decent top coat colour density over it. Some painters swear by it, but I’ve only ever sworn at it.
                      In this case, the primer was Alclad 2 grey primer and microfiller. No real reason for this choice except I have a bottle that has been hanging around for several years I prefer cellulose (lacquer) based primers as I feel they adhere best, so also have Tamiya and Mr Color in stock.

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1139122[/ATTACH]

                      The next stage for me is a black wash to highlight detail on the figure. This is liberally applied with a number 4 round brush. The function of the wash is very similar to a pin wash on armour. It highlights detail and show the discrete
                      areas of the figure. In my case it also makes the figure much easier to read when I’m painting. Even at this point the figure will start to come alive.

                      The wash is made from a 50:50 mix of these two...
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1139123[/ATTACH]
                      The game colour wash is designed just for this sort of use, but the black has a strong pigmentation. The glaze medium therefore “thins” the wash without taking away its useful characteristics. As I understand it, glaze medium is basically colour wash without pigment. You can dilute the wash with water, but if you do you may break down the consistency of the wash, and increase its surface tension. It will not then flow like it should, and could dry blotchy.

                      This part is just a quick insight into my figure painting preparation. There are as many ways to do this as there are painters, but this one is timeworn and works for me. I have been doing this, or something similar, for about thirty years.

                      I know some of you want to see how I do faces....well, that should be tomorrow and over the weekend....

                      Hope it helps, and if you have any questions, just ask away....
                      Thanks Tim. Well be looking forward to watching these come together so I can improve my figures.

                      ATB

                      Andrew

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                      • Guest

                        #101
                        Watching this stage with very great interest Tim. Keen to pinch as many ideas as possible.

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                        • Tim Marlow
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Peter Day
                          Watching this stage with very great interest Tim. Keen to pinch as many ideas as possible.
                          Not much I could teach you about real painting Peter. Perhaps I can teach you how to cheat though LOL....

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                          • adt70hk
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                            #103
                            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                            Not much I could teach you about real painting Peter. Perhaps I can teach you how to cheat though LOL....
                            Nout wrong with cheating if it makes painting figures easier!

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                            • Tim Marlow
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                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #104
                              Originally posted by adt70hk
                              Nout wrong with cheating if it makes painting figures easier!
                              True, but I do it to make a decent finish faster to achieve Andrew, not necessarily to make easier to do .Sometimes the two coincide though, like in face painting........

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                              • adt70hk
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                                #105
                                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                                True, but I do it to make a decent finish faster to achieve Andrew, not necessarily to make easier to do .Sometimes the two coincide though, like in face painting........
                                Thanks Tim. I really am looking forward to seeing these done. That flesh awash you suggested was such a have changer for me I can't wait to see what you do.

                                ATB

                                Andrew

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