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  • Jim R
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    • Apr 2018
    • 15704
    • Jim
    • Shropshire

    #91
    Well Andrew you have a nose. Decision made so the build can continue. It looks fine and, like Ian, I think I'd have gone down the am route earlier. All credit to you for giving it a go yourself.

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    • adt70hk
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      • Sep 2019
      • 10409

      #92
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Have you got a scanner Andrew? If so, could you photocopy the “25” and rescale/zoom it to the correct size? That will give you a great start on the side view……
      At work. Next in on Tuesday, will have a go then.

      Originally posted by Allen Dewire
      Evening Andrew,

      "T'is not a perfect world we live in" as the old saying goes......With that said, I think you have done an excellent job installing the AM nose and even a more excellent job trying to scratch build one. Time consuming? Yes......Aggravating? Yes again......I truly hope this hasn't dampened your spirits or mojo on this build. You are doing a fine job buddy and keep going. In the end, it will an exquisite and fine addition to your project!!!.........

      Prost
      Allen
      Hi Allen, it's ok, it's not got me beaten and I'm looking forward to the rest of it!

      Originally posted by Jim R
      Well Andrew you have a nose. Decision made so the build can continue. It looks fine and, like Ian, I think I'd have gone down the am route earlier. All credit to you for giving it a go yourself.
      Thanks Jim. I'm still in two minds about the nose but I've got other things I can do on it before I make a final decision!


      Thanks again for stopping by.

      Andrew

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      • adt70hk
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        • Sep 2019
        • 10409

        #93
        Ok....so I lied...I AM sorry!

        I kept looking at the AM nose and going the shape is wrong.

        I then remembered that I have Visio installed on my laptop and so I could the drawing of LP with the right nose to get some very accurate dimensions!!! :smiling3::smiling3:

        And then out came the needle file and some sanding sticks....and then I held my breath as I started the process of ruining a perfectly good AM nose......:cold-sweat::cold-sweat::loudly-crying::loudly-crying:

        It's still not finished and I need to work on the angles, especially around where it curves towards the tip. However, it looks much better already, so thanks Tim Marlow for not letting me settle for 2nd best.....

        ....only thing is does this mean I have become one of modelling's dreaded 'rivet counters' ?!?!?!?:anguished::anguished:

        ATB

        Andrew


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        Your probably getting fed up with this shot...I know I am!!






        For those not in the know, Visio is a Microsoft design package for designing all kinds of drawings and plans. Amongst other things it lets you define exactly how long a line is and tells you how long a line is when you draw it. Furthermore, because the length of the line is not changed by any zooming you do, it allows you to get very accurate measurements.

        For example, it may not look like it but the vertical line is only 10.5mm tall - the height of the kit fuselage at that point - it's just zoomed in over 500%. That then allowed me draw a horizontal line to the right place on the tip of the nose and Visio told me how long it was!






        And where I've got to so far. Not perfect but definitely heading in the right direction





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        • Tim Marlow
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          • Apr 2018
          • 18907
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #94
          You are not a rivet counter Andrew. That’s someone who criticises minor flaws in others work without producing any of their own. You are just someone who wants to get things right.

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          • adt70hk
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            • Sep 2019
            • 10409

            #95
            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
            You are not a rivet counter Andrew. That’s someone who criticises minor flaws in others work without producing any of their own. You are just someone who wants to get things right.
            I know but it's fair to say I have taken this hobby and especially the research far more seriously than I ever imagined but then given the nature of my personality and job, I shouldn't be surprised in the slightest!! :smiling5:

            I was beginning to wonder if LP had some modification made to its nose by the ground crew because I was struggling to find any other MK XIII with the same smooth transition on the nose but then I came across another one (HK382) with the same nose, so clearly it was not a one-off. Just a shame no manufacturer has ever picked up on it!

            Thanks as always for the support.

            Andrew

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            • scottie3158
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              • Apr 2018
              • 14202
              • Paul
              • Holbeach

              #96
              Andrew,
              All credit to you for wanting to get the nose right and you are doing a great job of it. The rest of the build is also looking good.

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              • adt70hk
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                • Sep 2019
                • 10409

                #97
                Originally posted by scottie3158
                Andrew,
                All credit to you for wanting to get the nose right and you are doing a great job of it. The rest of the build is also looking good.
                Thanks Scottie. Glad you're liking it!

                ATB.

                Andrew

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #98
                  This is what modelling is all about, each of us do what we want to build a kit. Andrew you've taken it to a high level , with your dogged research and determination.Good for you .
                  Think that programme Visio is great , suppose it costs an arm and a leg . I was thinking about buildings !
                  Off to have a look for it .

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                  • adt70hk
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                    • Sep 2019
                    • 10409

                    #99
                    Originally posted by John Race
                    This is what modelling is all about, each of us do what we want to build a kit. Andrew you've taken it to a high level , with your dogged research and determination.Good for you .
                    Think that programme Visio is great , suppose it costs an arm and a leg . I was thinking about buildings !
                    Off to have a look for it .
                    Thanks John.

                    Visio is normally fairly pricey from what I know but I got it very cheap through a scheme Microsoft has with some employers, so I got it and the full version of office for well under £100 in total.

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                    • Mickc1440
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 4779

                      #100
                      Perfectly normal behaviour after inhaling glue and paint fumes like the rest of us. Wanting to make something look right is probably what we all strive for. Keep the excellent work going.

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                      • adt70hk
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 10409

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Mickc1440
                        Perfectly normal behaviour after inhaling glue and paint fumes like the rest of us. Wanting to make something look right is probably what we all strive for. Keep the excellent work going.
                        Mick

                        Sincerest apologies completely forgot to reply! Thanks very much for the support, I do though have to remember though sometimes enough is enough!

                        ATB

                        Andrew

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                        • Geoffers
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                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1703
                          • Geoff
                          • Shropshire

                          #102
                          Good stuff Andrew :thumb2:

                          No point finishing a model that sits on the shelf nagging at you so well done for striving to get it as accurate as possible.

                          Geoff.

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                          • adt70hk
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 10409

                            #103
                            Ok, so after 3 weeks of faffing I'm calling the nose finished. It shouldn't have taken that long but I've had very little bench time, plus I had to wait for it to arrive from the US.

                            Without going into the whys wherefores, I have come to the conclusion that the the front of the Tamiya Mossie is slightly too curved to achieve both the nice straight join on the top and the rounded nose.....if you follow the lines it would be too short and come to a point. Not sure if that's a kit issue or the Mk XIII had slightly taller access hatches than a Mk VI.

                            So the bottom line is it's not a perfect match for LP but it's closer than the AM part as supplied.

                            Getting it perfectly balanced on each side was tricky and whilst it looks very slightly off under close scrutiny using an optivisor, it should pass muster at even fairly close distance with a Mk I eyeball. It's interesting how even a slight angle change or a shadow gives rise to a seeming change in its shape.


                            Thanks for your support on this part of the journey and now I can finally crack on with the rest of it!

                            ATB

                            Andrew







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                            • Tim Marlow
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 18907
                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #104
                              Originally posted by adt70hk
                              Ok, so after 3 weeks of faffing I'm calling the nose finished. It shouldn't have taken that long but I've had very little bench time, plus I had to wait for it to arrive from the US.

                              Without going into the whys wherefores, I have come to the conclusion that the the front of the Tamiya Mossie is slightly too curved to achieve both the nice straight join on the top and the rounded nose.....if you follow the lines it would be too short and come to a point. Not sure if that's a kit issue or the Mk XIII had slightly taller access hatches than a Mk VI.

                              So the bottom line is it's not a perfect match for LP but it's closer than the AM part as supplied.

                              Getting it perfectly balanced on each side was tricky and whilst it looks very slightly off under close scrutiny using an optivisor, it should pass muster at even fairly close distance with a Mk I eyeball. It's interesting how even a slight angle change or a shadow gives rise to a seeming change in its shape.


                              Thanks for your support on this part of the journey and now I can finally crack on with the rest of it!

                              ATB

                              Andrew







                              Looks very good to me Andrew. As to the “slightly off” comments, that impression would be highlighted by the light reflection lines on the plastic. If you go for a fairly matt finish these will be minimised and the problem will become almost invisible.

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                              • adt70hk
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 10409

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                                Looks very good to me Andrew. As to the “slightly off” comments, that impression would be highlighted by the light reflection lines on the plastic. If you go for a fairly matt finish these will be minimised and the problem will become almost invisible.
                                Thanks Tim. Good idea!!

                                I've got the full range of Vallejo resin varnishes and whilst I'd normally do satin for planes, I'll try a mix of Matt and satin as a starting point and see how it goes.

                                Thanks again.

                                Andrew

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