Andrew's 1/72 Tamiya Mosquito Mk XIII

[Tim Marlow]

I would also say that both the second clear picture, and the shape and size of the shadow in the second, show the bottom face of the cone actually follows the shape of the bottom of the fuselage. Your bottom red line is quite a bit too steep for it.

[adt70hk]

I would also say that both the second clear picture, and the shape and size of the shadow in the second, show the bottom face of the cone actually follows the shape of the bottom of the fuselage. Your bottom red line is quite a bit too steep for it.

Hi Tim

You're right. I did it in bit of rush this morning and just after I posted it, I realised it was a bit out. :crying: I'm having another play with finer lines as I type this.

[Tim Marlow]

Hi Tim

You're right. I did it in bit of rush this morning and just after I posted it, I realised it was a bit out. :crying: I'm having another play with finer lines as I type this.

The more I look, the more the outline of the nose seems to just follow the contours of the fuselage…..I don’t think you’d go far wrong following that and then just rounding off the end…..

[Jim R]

Well Andrew you've set yourself quite a task. Not only is it awkward to scratch the nose but difficult to be sure of what you're aiming for from those photos. I reckon you'll have to make a rough, slightly smaller nose from wood or stryrene and then refine the shape with filler. I think I'd go with Tim's idea of styrene discs to build up a kind of stepped cone and work from there.
I know you're up to the challenge and it does make for an interesting thread.

[adt70hk]

Well Andrew you've set yourself quite a task. Not only is it awkward to scratch the nose but difficult to be sure of what you're aiming for from those photos. I reckon you'll have to make a rough, slightly smaller nose from wood or stryrene and then refine the shape with filler. I think I'd go with Tim's idea of styrene discs to build up a kind of stepped cone and work from there.
I know you're up to the challenge and it does make for an interesting thread.

Thanks Jim. I think your right, just need to have another play with the angles!

Watch this space!

[yak face]

Top work andrew , the nose job is coming along great , the styrene rods one looks solid enough to use , should hold up to a good sanding to the new shape , then filler to make up the finished shape . Milliput might be better for this as it is easier to shape with a wet knife and doesn't shrink or crack like styrene filler sometimes does if applying thickly. Cheers tony

[adt70hk]

Hi all

So as some of you may have seen here, I succumbed and bought the AM nose.

It's not that I was completely turned off the idea of doing my own nose but I'd already lost the best part of two weeks to it due the limited bench time I get and so if only for my sanity it will probably be worth it. That may be a bit of a cop-out but I don't want to lose the mojo on the build because of the nose.

I had done two drawings of the possible nose shape, with number 2 being the closest but still not perfect. The AM nose itself is not 100% perfect, although it's nicely done. The Quickboost AM Mk XII nose was a perfect fit, by contrast this needed a little of filling around the nose.

As you will see from the below pics, there is definite step between the nose I've fitted, compared to Lonesome Polecat's which appears to be a pretty smooth transition. I don't think is a trick of the light or camera no matter how I look at it. However, I've found a clearer picture of of HK428 and there appears to be a definite step unlike the initial picture I found. What's more one site shows Lonesome Polecat staring it is Mk XII......its not!

Oh and most artists' impressions of Mk XIII I have show them with a smoothly transition - but LP is an exception in one case!

In short I give up......and have fitted the AM nose for better or worse! Oh and it also comes with the gun camera and some very thin (too thin) resin for the wing aerials.

ACW as usual......and I promise to say no more on the nose issue after this post! Promise....I'm getting fed up with it and so you must really be!

ATB

Andrew

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LP's nose.....










HK428....








My efforts on 'DIY nose Mk II'....










The AM conversion kit with nose and gun camera fitted....

[JR]

There comes a time Andrew when it's best just to bite the bullet and press buy.
You had a damed good try in making your version, just think of it as an exercise in modelling , all good practice .

[Mickc1440]

Some excellent attempts Andrew but as JR said sometimes you just have to give in

[papa 695]

Coming along very nicely Andrew, think I’d have bought the nose cone straight away, but kudos for trying.

[adt70hk]

There comes a time Andrew when it's best just to bite the bullet and press buy.
You had a damed good try in making your version, just think of it as an exercise in modelling , all good practice .

Some excellent attempts Andrew but as JR said sometimes you just have to give in

Coming along very nicely Andrew, think I’d have bought the nose cone straight away, but kudos for trying.

Thanks chaps for the support, much appreciated.

Interestingly the only other AM nose I've seen - long gone by now - was also wrong. Although it has a better fuselage join, towards the tip of the nose there was a subtle but distinct edge rather than a nice fairly constant curve....I just have to accept that the 'perfect' nose does not exist for this version!

John - as you say, even if I didn't go the whole way it's been a useful learning experience.

Thanks again gents and canopy is next!

ATB.

Andrew

[Tim Marlow]

I must be honest Andrew, and say I don’t think the aftermarket nose looks much like the ones in the photographs. It does look like the nose in the second of your colour profiles, so perhaps that was what it was based on. The colour profile with 25 on it looks to be much more accurate in shape, so it’s a shame they never used that as the template :disappointed2:
Still, if we hadn’t gone through this in such forensic detail I would have been completely unaware of the differences, so I’m sure your model will look absolutely fine :thumb2:

[adt70hk]

I must be honest Andrew, and say I don’t think the aftermarket nose looks much like the ones in the photographs. It does look like the nose in the second of your colour profiles, so perhaps that was what it was based on. The colour profile with 25 on it looks to be much more accurate in shape, so it’s a shame they never used that as the template :disappointed2:
Still, if we hadn’t gone through this in such forensic detail I would have been completely unaware of the differences, so I’m sure your model will look absolutely fine :thumb2:

Hi Tim

Completely agree about the look of be nose being out. I must admit I have wondered about sanding the AM nose into the right shape but there's no going back if I do.....

That said I had forgotten about artist's impression 25 and so had no proper view to work from.

So as I'm sure the correct nose is slightly smaller than the AM nose, I might have a play with some more drawings to get the scale right this weekend.

Thanks as always.

Andrew

[Tim Marlow]

Hi Tim

Completely agree about the look of be nose being out. I must admit I have wondered about sanding the AM nose into the right shape but there's no going back if I do.....

That said I had forgotten about artist's impression 25 and so had no proper view to work from.

So as I'm sure the correct nose is slightly smaller than the AM nose, I might have a play with some more drawings to get the scale right this weekend.

Thanks as always.

Andrew

Have you got a scanner Andrew? If so, could you photocopy the “25” and rescale/zoom it to the correct size? That will give you a great start on the side view……

[Allen Dewire]

Evening Andrew,

"T'is not a perfect world we live in" as the old saying goes......With that said, I think you have done an excellent job installing the AM nose and even a more excellent job trying to scratch build one. Time consuming? Yes......Aggravating? Yes again......I truly hope this hasn't dampened your spirits or mojo on this build. You are doing a fine job buddy and keep going. In the end, it will an exquisite and fine addition to your project!!!.........

Prost
Allen